Boost energy & power flow (i/p to o/p)

Hi all,

I am trying to understand the flow of energy an d thus power through a boost converter. I understand how the circuit works, but am a little confused on some concepts proposed by A.Presmans book switching power supply design second edition.

(For those of you with the book it=92s the equation 1.13 on page 26 that I am not sure about)

The books is describing the power throughput of a discontinuous boost converter with an input full wave rectified line voltage of Vdc,

The equation that I am struggling with its meaning is:

Pdc=3DVdc.(Ip/2)(Tr/T)

Pdc=3D power delivered to load during off time Vdc=3D input voltage Ip=3D average inductor current over Tr which equals Ip/2 during Tr Tr=3D time for current in inductor to decay from peak to zero (reset time) Tr/T =3D the duty factor of reset time

What I am struggling with is what it means. I thought a boost converter filled op the inductor during the fet on time and emptied the inductor during the fet off time. This equation seems to supply energy from the input during the fet off time because of the Vdc terms inclusion in this equation.

Does this equation state Pdc =3D average input voltage during tr. Average current during tr ? As

1) Input voltage during tr =3D Vdc(Tr/T) ? 2) Ip/2 =3D average inductor current during tr?

I know the current through the inductor during the fet off time is the input current and the load and capacitor current combined but the Vdc term is confusing me.

Can someone please explain the energy and power transfer for a discontinuous boost converter from input to output in words.

Thanks in advance,

Reggie.

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Hi Reggie,

Pdc=Vdc.(Ip/2)(Tr/T)

Pdc= power delivered to load during off time Vdc= input voltage Ip= average inductor current over Tr which equals Ip/2 during Tr Tr= time for current in inductor to decay from peak to zero (reset time) Tr/T = the duty factor of reset time"

OK.

"What I am struggling with is what it means. I thought a boost converter filled op the inductor during the fet on time and emptied the inductor during the fet off time."

Correct.

"This equation seems to supply energy from the input during the fet off time because of the Vdc terms inclusion in this equation."

Yes, this is correct also. Perhaps the way to think of this is... the DC supply provides some energy to the load, and it really is the inductor that provides the "boost!" Consider: If the inductor were very small, when the FET is off you'd still have pretty much a direct connection between the power supply and the load. That "direct connection" results in a power to the load given by the equation above. But since the inductor provides a "boost" as well, you have to account for power, which Pressman does in equation 1.12, and adds it to your equation above to get the total power delivered to the load.

"Does this equation state Pdc = average input voltage during tr. Average current during tr ? As

1) Input voltage during tr = Vdc(Tr/T) ? 2) Ip/2 = average inductor current during tr?"

The way I'd think of it is...

-- The input voltage is assumed to be constant, Vdc

-- The average current pulled from the power supply is the same as the average current in the inductor, Ip/2

-- Hence -- while the FET is off -- the power supply delivers Vdc*Ip/2 watts.

-- Over a complete switching cycle, the FET is off for Tr/T ( * 100%) of the time.

-- Hence, on average the power supply delivers Vdc * Ip/2 * Tr/T watts to the load (without taking into account what the inductor does).

"I know the current through the inductor during the fet off time is the input current and the load and capacitor current combined but the Vdc term is confusing me."

All the power supply "knows" is that there's something out there (the inductor in this case) pulling current from it, so since it's trying to present a fixed DC output voltage, it must be providing power to whatever that "thing" is. Since an ideal inductor doesn't dissipate any power, the power must end up being dissipated in your load.

"Can someone please explain the energy and power transfer for a discontinuous boost converter from input to output in words."

Briefly: During the FET on time, the power supply stores energy in the inductor. During the FET off time, the power supply is connected to the load in series with the inductor. Hence, you end up with both the power supply and the inductor providing energy to the load.

I'll mention that when I was first designing switching power supply, one of the concepts that took awhile to sink in is that you have to be watchful for what's really "controlling" various currents and voltages: If you have an inductor with a certain current in it and then suddenly change the circuit topology, that inductor is going to still force the same current at "t-zero-plus" to be the same as it was at "t-zero-minus." I know this is gone over in EE courses in school, but it takes awhile to get an intuitive "feel" for what's going on. Just as capacitors soak up charge and present a voltage that takes effort to change (i.e., it acts like a little battery), inductors soak up current (well, flux, really) and then present some loop with a current that takes effort to change (i.e., it acts like a little constant current source).

---Joel

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Thanks Joel for this. What you have said above makes perfect sense to me.

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Not so sure, Average current Iout =3D area under curve/length of base. Area of decaying current triangle with base of Tr and height of Ip;

area =3D 1/2Tr*Ip and length of base is Tr so

Average current Iout (over Tr not T) =3D (1/2Tr*Ip)/ Tr =3D Ip/2

This has a time element included, which makes me think that the Vdc needs to be multiplied by a time element (the Tr/T).

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Agree, I know I am nit picking, and the result is the same but its an understanding I am after, how would I construct those formulas without the book is what I am trying to achieve=85

So is this statement inaccurate

Pdc =3D [(average input voltage during tr) X (Average current during tr)] + (what the inductor does)

Pdc =3D (average power during tr only as when fet is on Vdc is not supplying load) +(1/2.L.Ip.Ip/T)

I am now not sure why (1/2 .L.Ip.Ip/T) there is a T and not a Ton term as the inductor is filled up when during ton not the whole cycle T.

Does what I am saying make sense to you?

Am I way off in my thoughts and grasp of what these equations mean?

The problem is if I cannot remember equations only derivations

Thanks again,

Reggie..

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