Boost converter wisdom

Aug 24, 2018 37 Replies

There is the occasional "synchronous SEPIC", meaning no big diode, but have you considered buck-boost chips? In your case it probably has to be something in the MHz range so that the inductor can be tiny. EMC is another story.

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The EMC spec is DC-2MHz. ;)

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com

Ah, now I understand where you're going. I didn't get that you had a linear after the switcher. I do that fairly often for fixed supplies where I care about ripple. I haven't had need for a variable supply, though.

So use two cap multipliers and two low-side switches as your DPDT switch.

Yeah, I'm familiar with that management edict, "fix it but don't change anything!"

So use a 2.2MHz switcher? How much current do you need?

I don't recall did you give us a set of specs? Output voltage(s) and maximum current(s)?

Thanks, - Win

You do have to make sure that the class D waveform doesn't get as far as th e TEC. The TEC response is non-linear and cycle-to-cycle variation in the c urrent going through it generates more ohmic heating than a more nearly sta ble current.

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used a thumping great toroidal common mode inductor with capacitors to filt er the class D switching component out of the current going through the TEC . I also messed with the switching waveform to minimise the lower frequency harder-to-filter components.

Bill Sloman, Sydney

A couple of amps at maybe +-3V, depending on the TEC.

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Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com

That should be easily do-able with a 2MHz FSw, which would get around your EMI problems (shouldn't be a big deal if it's laid out properly). You should be able to get away with 2520 or maybe 4-5mm inductors, so it should be pretty small.

Are there any high-current DPDT solid-state switches, or SSRs?

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I was thinking of a tiny buck switcher (I like TPS54302) then a noise filter then the h-bridge into the TEC.

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3 volts, I thought you said it was a boost converter? BTW, if a split supply is required, a coupled inductor can be very useful.
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It seems a bit silly to have a set of four switches in the H-bridge and add more to drive a separate buck converter. If you use the H-bridge switches to activate say, a Cuk converter, and filter the output (whose polarity wou ld depend on which switches you activated) before it goes into the TEC you should end up with the same result from fewer switching elements.

That circuit would have to be designed, rather than evolved by glomming tog ether conceptually simpler elements, so it isn't surprising that John Larki n couldn't come up with it.

Bill Sloman, Sydney

Sorry, I was unclear. That's the spec for the buck driving the Class H amp. Pop option #1 will be to run that off the +5V, but pop option #2 (hopefully) will be to run it off the boost converter, which will put out +12 to +14. That way I can use either kind of TEC.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com

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that DRV8839 is a h-bridge and the datasheet specify 0-11V motor supply and separate 1.8-7V logic supply

Right. The biggest part would be the inductor.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Color me stupid and ignorant, but what eXplicitly wrong with using your standard, known-characteristics 24V supply?

It isn't available in the instruments they want to retrofit.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 http://electrooptical.net http://hobbs-eo.com

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