Boost Converter Efficiency Improvements

This is what I have:

.model sms7621 D is=2.6459e-8 Rs=10.3 N=1.01 TT= 1e-11 Cjo=0.13 M=0.35 Eg=0.69 XTI=2 Fc=0.5 Bv=3 Ibv=1e-5 Vj=0.51

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Fred Abse
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Shouldn't be a big problem but you can hang a diode in series with the zener.

This one lends itself to do it with a uC. If you don't need a fast loop any old uC could do this. If it has an ADC you can have it keep track of the cap voltage.

My worst one was a doc, boss of a large research hospital department. Behaved very uppity but I can deal with that. What turned me off was when they took a whole month to reach the simple decision about finally going ahead with the project and then told me I had to get it done in three days. With board layout, fab, debug and all. I turned them down.

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Joerg

We all get that.

They usually come back, months later, having exhausted every other avenue. Then you really get to stick it to 'em :-)

I won't entertain dealing with medics.

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Fred Abse

No more. It's fixed, costs one extra diode:

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FLAG 560 512 GATE FLAG 768 208 0 FLAG 960 592 0 FLAG 1152 832 0 FLAG 1344 624 EFF FLAG 768 592 0 FLAG 1360 832 0 FLAG 96 832 0 FLAG 160 672 rc FLAG 272 832 0 FLAG 464 1056 0 FLAG 688 672 VP FLAG 1328 400 0 FLAG 208 48 9V FLAG 144 912 9V SYMBOL ind2 512 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -41 56 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -53 53 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName L1 SYMATTR Value 3µ SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=0.06 SYMBOL schottky 1040 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -41 30 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -49 27 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName D1 SYMATTR Value 10MQ060N SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL voltage 96 160 R0 WINDOW 0 48 55 Left 2 WINDOW 3 54 83 Left 2 WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 2 WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName V2 SYMATTR Value 9 SYMBOL nmos 608 432 R0 WINDOW 0 -55 -55 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -101 -22 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName M1 SYMATTR Value Si7218DN SYMBOL ind2 800 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -32 56 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -41 57 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName L2 SYMATTR Value 27µ SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=0.06 SYMBOL res 528 496 R90 WINDOW 0 77 56 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 84 57 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName R3 SYMATTR Value 10 SYMBOL res 1184 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -38 31 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -11 86 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R6 SYMATTR Value 1m SYMBOL cap 1264 224 R90 WINDOW 0 68 59 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 42 -8 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName C3 SYMATTR Value 100m SYMBOL res 304 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -37 24 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -11 88 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R8 SYMATTR Value 1m SYMBOL cap 384 224 R90 WINDOW 0 73 60 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 47 -14 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName C6 SYMATTR Value 100m SYMBOL res 944 320 R0 WINDOW 0 -54 67 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -58 98 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R9 SYMATTR Value 500 SYMBOL cap 944 480 R0 WINDOW 0 -46 35 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -50 68 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C7 SYMATTR Value 30p SYMBOL bv 1152 656 R0 WINDOW 3 -557 141 Left 2 WINDOW 0 -83 97 Left 2 SYMATTR Value V= LIMIT (0, 100 * I(R6) * V(VP) / ( I(R8) * 9 ), 100 ) SYMATTR InstName B1 SYMBOL res 1312 608 R90 WINDOW 0 70 60 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 78 61 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName R1 SYMATTR Value 1K SYMBOL res 752 320 R0 WINDOW 0 53 70 Left 2 WINDOW 3 51 100 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R2 SYMATTR Value 200 SYMBOL cap 752 480 R0 WINDOW 0 60 34 Left 2 WINDOW 3 56 72 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C1 SYMATTR Value 200p SYMBOL cap 1344 688 R0 WINDOW 0 -37 63 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -43 94 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C2 SYMATTR Value 50n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 160 512 R0 SYMATTR InstName A1 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=0.5 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL cap 80 720 R0 WINDOW 0 44 60 Left 2 WINDOW 3 37 92 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C4 SYMATTR Value 500p SYMBOL res 128 464 R270 WINDOW 0 88 58 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 74 57 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R4 SYMATTR Value 2K SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 448 R0 SYMATTR InstName A2 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 384 R0 SYMATTR InstName A3 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 512 R0 SYMATTR InstName A4 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 320 R0 SYMATTR InstName A5 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL nmos 320 704 M0 WINDOW 0 77 0 Left 2 WINDOW 3 63 35 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName M2 SYMATTR Value 2N7002 SYMBOL res 448 688 R0 WINDOW 0 47 64 Left 2 WINDOW 3 40 94 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R5 SYMATTR Value 10K SYMBOL zener 560 688 R270 WINDOW 0 50 33 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -13 35 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName D2 SYMATTR Value 1N5369B SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL cap 1312 288 R0 WINDOW 0 -61 48 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -59 81 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C5 SYMATTR Value 5µ SYMBOL res 640 320 R0 WINDOW 0 47 70 Left 2 WINDOW 3 41 102 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R7 SYMATTR Value 1m SYMBOL res 448 912 R0 WINDOW 0 47 64 Left 2 WINDOW 3 40 94 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R11 SYMATTR Value 10K SYMBOL cap 368 928 R270 WINDOW 0 32 32 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 0 32 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName C9 SYMATTR Value 0.33µ SYMBOL res 224 928 R270 WINDOW 0 32 56 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 0 56 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R10 SYMATTR Value 10k SYMBOL diode 544 688 M270 WINDOW 0 32 32 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 0 32 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName D3 SYMATTR Value 1N4148 TEXT 1064 432 Left 2 !.tran 0 15m 0 10n uic TEXT 1040 488 Left 2 ;PRETTY DUMB BOOST TEXT 1072 544 Left 2 ;JL June 29 2013 TEXT 648 104 Left 2 !K L1 L2 0.95 TEXT 192 624 Left 2 ;74HC14 TEXT 296 1016 Left 2 ;SOFT TEXT 296 1040 Left 2 ;START TEXT 160 504 Left 2 ;OSC TEXT 696 168 Left 2 ;1:3

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Joerg

On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 13:22:27 -0700, Joerg wrote:

Try this one. Sweet startup current curve.

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1344 144 VP FLAG 656 800 0 FLAG 96 320 0 FLAG 720 304 DRAIN FLAG 560 512 GATE FLAG 768 208 0 FLAG 960 592 0 FLAG 1152 832 0 FLAG 1344 624 EFF FLAG 768 592 0 FLAG 1360 832 0 FLAG 96 1040 0 FLAG 160 880 rc FLAG 272 1040 0 FLAG 688 880 VP FLAG 1328 400 0 FLAG 224 96 9V FLAG 464 1040 0 FLAG 272 832 0 SYMBOL ind2 512 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -41 56 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -53 53 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName L1 SYMATTR Value 3µ SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=0.06 SYMBOL schottky 1040 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -41 30 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -49 27 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName D1 SYMATTR Value 10MQ060N SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL voltage 96 160 R0 WINDOW 0 48 55 Left 2 WINDOW 3 54 83 Left 2 WINDOW 123 0 0 Left 2 WINDOW 39 0 0 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName V2 SYMATTR Value 9 SYMBOL nmos 608 432 R0 WINDOW 0 -55 -55 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -101 -22 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName M1 SYMATTR Value Si7218DN SYMBOL ind2 800 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -32 56 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -41 57 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName L2 SYMATTR Value 27µ SYMATTR Type ind SYMATTR SpiceLine Rser=0.06 SYMBOL res 528 496 R90 WINDOW 0 -15 56 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 46 56 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName R3 SYMATTR Value 10 SYMBOL res 1184 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -38 31 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -11 86 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R6 SYMATTR Value 1m SYMBOL cap 1264 224 R90 WINDOW 0 68 59 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 42 -8 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName C3 SYMATTR Value 100m SYMBOL res 304 160 R270 WINDOW 0 -37 24 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -11 88 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R8 SYMATTR Value 1m SYMBOL cap 384 224 R90 WINDOW 0 73 60 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 47 -14 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName C6 SYMATTR Value 100m SYMBOL res 944 320 R0 WINDOW 0 -54 67 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -58 98 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R9 SYMATTR Value 500 SYMBOL cap 944 480 R0 WINDOW 0 -46 35 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -50 68 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C7 SYMATTR Value 30p SYMBOL bv 1152 656 R0 WINDOW 3 -269 254 Left 2 WINDOW 0 -83 97 Left 2 SYMATTR Value V= LIMIT (0, 100 * I(R6) * V(VP) / ( I(R8) * 9 ), 100 ) SYMATTR InstName B1 SYMBOL res 1312 608 R90 WINDOW 0 70 60 VBottom 2 WINDOW 3 78 61 VTop 2 SYMATTR InstName R1 SYMATTR Value 1K SYMBOL res 752 320 R0 WINDOW 0 53 70 Left 2 WINDOW 3 51 100 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R2 SYMATTR Value 200 SYMBOL cap 752 480 R0 WINDOW 0 60 34 Left 2 WINDOW 3 56 72 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C1 SYMATTR Value 200p SYMBOL cap 1344 688 R0 WINDOW 0 -37 63 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -43 94 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C2 SYMATTR Value 50n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 160 512 R0 SYMATTR InstName A1 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=0.5 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL cap 80 928 R0 WINDOW 0 44 60 Left 2 WINDOW 3 37 92 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C4 SYMATTR Value 500p SYMBOL res 128 464 R270 WINDOW 0 88 58 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 74 57 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName R4 SYMATTR Value 2K SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 448 R0 SYMATTR InstName A2 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 384 R0 SYMATTR InstName A3 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 512 R0 SYMATTR InstName A4 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL Digital\\schmtinv 304 320 R0 SYMATTR InstName A5 SYMATTR Value2 Vhigh=5 Vt=2.5 Vh=1 SYMATTR SpiceLine Td=5n SYMBOL nmos 320 912 M0 WINDOW 0 77 0 Left 2 WINDOW 3 63 35 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName M2 SYMATTR Value 2N7002 SYMBOL res 448 896 R0 WINDOW 0 47 64 Left 2 WINDOW 3 40 94 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R5 SYMATTR Value 10K SYMBOL zener 560 896 R270 WINDOW 0 50 33 VTop 2 WINDOW 3 -13 35 VBottom 2 SYMATTR InstName D2 SYMATTR Value 1N5369B SYMATTR Description Diode SYMATTR Type diode SYMBOL cap 1312 288 R0 WINDOW 0 -61 48 Left 2 WINDOW 3 -59 81 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName C5 SYMATTR Value 5µ SYMBOL res 640 320 R0 WINDOW 0 47 70 Left 2 WINDOW 3 41 102 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R7 SYMATTR Value 1m SYMBOL res 640 672 R0 WINDOW 0 70 52 Left 2 WINDOW 3 75 86 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName R10 SYMATTR Value 0.6 SYMBOL npn 336 704 M0 WINDOW 0 100 35 Left 2 WINDOW 3 76 73 Left 2 SYMATTR InstName Q1 SYMATTR Value 2N4401 TEXT 1040 416 Left 2 !.tran 0 5m 0 10n uic TEXT 1016 464 Left 2 ;PRETTY DUMB BOOST TEXT 1040 552 Left 2 ;JL June 30 2013 TEXT 648 104 Left 2 !K L1 L2 0.95 TEXT 192 624 Left 2 ;74HC14 TEXT 160 504 Left 2 ;OSC TEXT 696 168 Left 2 ;1:3 TEXT 1056 504 Left 2 ;(npn soft start)

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John Larkin

I have another customer who is an MD. And he's designing circuits.

He's taking our 5-volt delay generator pulse, driving a transistor base, pulling the collector up to 15 volts with a 3.3K resistor, and going into the gate of a megawatt-class IGBT.

I sent him some gate driver chips.

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John Larkin                  Highland Technology Inc 
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Precision electronic instrumentation 
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators 
Custom timing and laser controllers 
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links 
VME  analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer 
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
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John Larkin

But R10 for the current mode causes the efficiency to go to pots because the supply is only 9V. What I did in one such situation was pre-bias the BE junction to around 400mV so the current sense resistor would only have to drop 200mV.

It'll also have a rough start because Q10 truncates pulses brutally in the beginning. Causes needle pulses, and probably some EMI worries.

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