Bonus for engineers, is that done?

Jan 21, 2020 68 Replies

I've seen salesmen assure the customer that the product will, in effect, can safely ignore one or more of the fallacies of distributed computing, or that it has solved the Byzantine general's problem.

It becomes a colossal waste of time for engineers to have to unwind/correct such idiocies.

Engineers being in the loop at each end helps avoid that. When that happens it is merely a matter of taste as to whether all the engineers and salesmen can sit around a table together.

Not all businesses are like that.

The flip side of that would be "if the salesman succeeded, but the engineer is unable to create what the salesman sold, it's not the salesman's fault".

That shouldn't happen, but it does.

Not for me. I once had a job offer that I declined twice despite the salary being increased 25%, and I accepted an offer for less than that. I never regretted that decision.

Only up to a point.

For many engineers salary is one of Herzberg's "hygiene factors" rather than a "motivator".

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Hygiene factors (e.g. status, job security, salary, fringe benefits, work conditions, good pay, paid insurance, vacations) that do not give positive satisfaction or lead to higher motivation, though dissatisfaction results from their absence.

Motivators (e.g. challenging work, recognition for one's achievement, responsibility, opportunity to do something meaningful, involvement in decision making, sense of importance to an organization) that give positive satisfaction, arising from intrinsic conditions of the job itself, such as recognition, achievement, or personal growth.

CEOs greed is based on salary being a motivator for them.

This is "business as usual." :>

Best regards, Piotr

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Mere 230e6 USD of wasted money, try to beat that.

This loop is vital and involved more parties than sales/engineers, however letting the engineers talk to the client directly might have... interesting consequences, to say the least. Some mid-air transcoding is necessary not to insult people, as well as translating "blah, blah, balh aaaand blah!" into "yes"/"no" edible by technical folks. :->

Surely, but neither is John's. Our world has fabulous capacitance and can easily host various approaches.

Best regards, Piotr

They should have asked Forth Inc. to rewrite the software. They did this once for American Airlines in a similar situation. Worked great. It is often touted as an example of what can be done with a unique tool and approach.

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I remember that being covered pretty comprehensively on comp.risks from 1994

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to 1996
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with amusingly
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The January 1997 issue of "Dr. Dobbs Journal" has an article in which the author reports that his software simulation of the automatic baggage handling system of the Denver airport mimicked the real-life situation.

In his conclusion, he notes that the consultants did perform a similar simulation and had recommended against the installation of the system currently in place. The city, however, overruled the consultant's report (the contractors who were building the system never did see the report) and gave the go-ahead.

Gaining a common language and understanding isn't easy, but is essential.

pany +20 million dollars per year

s of engineers getting a percentage of the savings?

employed engineers?

Yes...

Some get a few % of sales.... as in $500,000 per year....

Bonuses for functional asics back from fab etc?

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Indeed. Its sticky and smells....

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