asymmetric stripline

Jan 29, 2008 5 Replies

Given a pc board like...


======================================= ground ^ 12 mils v ======= trace ----------



^ 24 mils v


======================================= ground


and assuming FR-4 and 1 oz copper, does anybody know what trace width gives 50 ohms? My rough guess is 12 mils.



googling online calculators yields an impressive collection of defunct/missing/silly web pages. I suppose I could fire up ATLC, but that's a heap of work.



Help appreciated.


John



"John Larkin" a écrit dans le message de news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

12mils gives 52ohm. 13mils gives a better 50.158ohm, see here under simulation done with the (very good) GPL 2D impedance calculator software from Kirby Goulet (cf
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Simulation pix map 400 pixels high by 1600 pixels wide.

1921024 bytes allocated for bmp.

INPUT PARAMETERS:

Layer Thick Er Specifications Copper Plane Top 1.30 3.20 Open w=0.0 off=0.0 Laminate Layer 1 12.00 4.20 64.3% 3.2/6.0 Signal Layer 1 1.35 4.20 W=13.0 Etchback=0.00 Laminate Layer 2 24.00 4.20 64.3% 3.2/6.0 Copper Plane Bottom 1.30 3.20 Open w=0.0 off=0.0

Rdc_trace_1= 38.67 milliohms/in 20C DC resistance by pixel count: Rdc_trace_1= 37.291 milliohm/in. C = 3.462 pF/in L = 8.709 nH/in. Er = 4.200 Delay = 173.626 ps/in. Zo = 50.158 Ohms

Friendly, Robert Lacoste

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Good link!. Looks like fun. Thanks.

Thanks. I'd used Er of 4.5 for the dielectric, so my 12 mils guess is pretty close, maybe even a bit below 50 ohms. This is for a test trace that I'm piggy-backing onto a production board; I'll TDR it and post the results. It will include various traces and vias, and do some "reference plane" switching.

That program looks like a fancier version of ATLC. It still appears to need an external bitmap generator. But there seems to be no HELP.

John

My recommendation: contact your board house. They (should!!) have good calculation capabilities for the specific board material and stackup you are dealing with, and can even tell you tolerances. I've had very good service on this sort of thing from the couple of board houses we use.

I do have a nice spreadsheet that will come close on things like this, and on differential traces and various other things, but when push comes to shove, the board house is my backup.

Cheers, Tom

Check more than one board house, they are always a little different.

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Trace Current Calculation Tools

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Impedance Calculation Tools, Idea Consulting

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Impedance Calculation Tools, University of Missouri

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Impedance Calculation Tools, ICD Australia

Vic

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