Analog Devices: No samples anymore?

When I did business with MOD, GOI (Ministry of Defense, Government of Israel), I had stuff shipped to the engineer's home address... at their insistence ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson
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I do this from time-to-time. There are absolutely no red flags.

The supplier invoice says this:-

Supplier company: Industrial type company Invoice number: XXXX Date: XXX Ship to: Name at client industrial type company Billing address: My company (.. description of industrial type stuff.. )

And, of course, the supplier invoice number/date and exact amount is referenced when charged on the client invoice. No big deal.

The potential problem comes in if the client company requires an additional P.O. for such things (maybe over some amount), in which case it's usually easier for them to go buy it themselves (but not easy). Otherwise it could delay payment on the whole invoice if their accounting folks can't handle it expeditiously. That happens a maximum of one time, and preferably zero times.

There's weird suspicious-looking stuff sometimes... like the brushes we bought from a beauty shop wholesaler.. but it's always double well documented in such cases, because it might be difficult to remember the purpose of a one-off small-value purchase a couple years hence.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

Our purchasing is essentially filling out an online form. Stuff falls out of the sky a few days later. Occasionally there is a need to prod the process, but not often. To expedite, simply mark the "need by" date as the next date. The only problem is that they will *only* deal with companies that are on the "approved list". Buying anything else is easier when done out-of-pocket.

At the other end, I have become friendly with the shipping/receiving people. I do a bit of shipping and it helps being on good terms with the shipping people when I have to get something out after the deadline (which is all too often).

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krw

You *earned* them. Of course a sane person wouldn't have designed them in. ;-) Since we were talking about ADI, I got 100 of the largest Sharcs from them a while back, along with a few trays of unreleased ADCs and DACs. ;-) I imagine it would be no problem to get a few hundred FPGAs, if I had a project that needed them (more like one that could justify the cost). It's all about what business you're in and what business they want to be in.

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krw

Ouch! ;-)

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krw

Talk to your AD rep. Ours has been very helpful over the past years.

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qrk

You are in Canada, very different game. The recent topper: A couple has given their usual tithes to church and the church issued the usual year-end receipt. Because there was no explicit statement that only "intangible religious services" were rendered in return the IRS disallowed the whole (very large) deduction. AFAIR they also did not allow a retroactive fix.

And then it's plumbing materials to a large electronics business -> auditor raises eyebrow -> poof -> denied.

Out here it all has to be quadruple-well documented and if they do not like one wee item such as a "wrong" name for shippimng destination you might be out a lot of money. I prefer not to risk that.

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Joerg

How does one brage? And who's Jeorg?

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Joerg

Once Maxim wouldn't ship us parts, but samples were available. I had a friend at a university get a dozen students to each request 10 samples, and I paid them the unit price.

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John Larkin

The IRS did not...

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Just part of the Obama administration's efforts to destroy the Judeo-Christian roots of the US and replace them with Islamic regulations.

[snip] ...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
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I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Jim Thompson

It did deny, clearly says so in your link.

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Joerg

Trouble with English this morning ?:-) The IRS _did_not_ allow a retroactive fix. ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    | 
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             | 
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  | 
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     | 
              
I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Jim Thompson

That's exactly what I wrote above.

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Joerg

That's exactly what I said >:-} ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    | 
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             | 
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  | 
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     | 
              
I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Jim Thompson

:-)

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Joerg

Joerg is too cheap to have his Gulibilty meter repaired.

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Michael A. Terrell

My condolences on having to live with an outrageously complex system that effectively prohibits drop shipping. ;-) So contractors must personally deliver every sheet of drywall to the jobsite and distributors can't have bulky items shipped directly from supplier warehouses. No wonder the stock market is plummeting.

Pretty sad, if the reports tell the whole story. Those guys (IRS) have too much power**. The church issued non-compliant forms (no volunteer tax accountant?) and the couple didn't have that huge deduction paperwork checked before filing their return. The church website probably is hosting malware too. The post-fix appears to be statute-barred. I suppose they should be happy the IRS is not going after previous years or assessing everybody who was a major benefactor of that church (or maybe they are). They lost in tax court, so I suppose they can still pay the tax and take it to District Court, but for $9K it's probably not worth it, unless someone else is footing the legal bill.

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Tax money is their lifeblood and they're very, very serious about collecting it, especially if it can be done with little effort (cost) to themselves.

"...only a matter of time before someone tries to sue their church if the IRS denies them a deduction because their receipt was noncompliant"

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Now that's just silly, but if your auditor is looking every $200 non-capital item, you've got umm.. problems already. Mabe a disgruntled employee gave them a false tip, or there is some mistaken identity.

To me, it's just a sale. I buy something, actually take legal title to the goods once it gets picked up by Fedex, and it's delivered to the customer who then gets invoiced for it. No big deal.

But if you're not set up for dealing with sale of tangible goods, I can see as it might be an unwelcome increase in complexity and some other kinds of potential risk.

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Spehro Pefhany

Violent agreement?

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Spehro Pefhany

You can get E-meters on eBay.. I think they can measure gullibility.

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Spehro Pefhany

Nope. But one must be very careful with what is deemed "customary" and the deeming party is not your friend. As a consultant one must be very careful with materials shipped to clients. It can easily happen, for example, that the state tax folks pounce because they assume a trade business. That gets the all salivating. I've been on the beat long enough to know what can happen (and has).

That is why I am of the opinion that it is enough. I don't care what liberals think because most of them don't pay taxes to begin with.

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All it takes is a tax auditor who is grumpy. I do not wish to take that chance.

Don't do that in Californica :-)

Yup. And I absolutely do not want to be in that position. I've had to do sales tax returns for three years just because of a whim of those in power. Wot a waste.

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Joerg

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