We do that in thermocouple systems, to eliminate thermals caused by coil current. A BIST relay, with coils pulsed for a few milliseconds per year, has pretty low average coil power. But switching thermocouples, I suppose signal power is pretty low too.
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Jim Thompson
Sno-o-o-o-ort >:-} ...Jim Thompson
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For energy efficiency, there are also latching relays (two coils, and a permanent magnet); slightly more expense, but unbeatable hold current minimization. It takes two pins from the microprocessor to drive, though.
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Phil Hobbs
You don't need two MCU pins to drive a single-coil latching relay. One pin, a buffer, and a series cap will do it. (Of course the cap has to be fairly big.)
One trick I like is to add a non-latching form-C relay with its coil in a d iode bridge and its contacts in series with the coil of the latching relay. That allows bootstrapping out the coil-contact capacitance of the latching relay, since the coil is isolated except during switching.
This costs some operating margin, so you need to use, say, 9V coils with a
12V supply.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred
At those low coil currents the contacts can break without the relay dropping out.
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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred
True.
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John Larkin
You are snorting a lot lately. You should see a doctor and find out what's wrong.
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Snorting is healthy, and latching relays have effectively infinite gain as far as I'm concerned.
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No, it's not optimized. Yes, it needs a reset diode.
Hahahahahah! (Merry Christmas!)
Cheers, James Arthur
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krw
Troublemaker!
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Jim Thompson
You can do anything with a 555 timer >:-}...
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dagmargoodboat
Oops, forgot the timing cap...
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John Larkin
I think it can be done with HC logic and r's and c's, total 5 parts if the drive timing is controlled, 6 parts if not.
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dagmargoodboat
Yes, but is it a 74HC555?
(I almost went 'hc, but what sort of man can swim against pin 3's 200mA current? Not to mention the cool-factor.)
('hc Schmitt-triggers are some of the most wonderful things ever made.)
Cheers, James
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Bill Sloman
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The classic solution is to use a latching relay.
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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John Fields
So post the schematic...
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dagmargoodboat
Doesn't his circuit on the 555 thread meet that test? Two IC's and an R-C. Four parts, IIRC.
Cheers, James Arthur
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