4 ghz opamp

This is interesting: 4 GHz and CMOS inputs.

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What's amazing is that it's available as a dual. Looks like they just dice up two amps in one chunk and package that.

Slew rate is sorta low, so it's not good for high-swing stuff. The schematic on data sheet page 11 is interesting.

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4nV/sqrt(Hz) noise - really high corner frequency though.

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Sure, CMOS input buffers followed by lots of really tiny bipolars.

The input capacitance is nice.

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Yes, a very small die part, with high current density.

Thanks to clever bootstrapping, the input capacitance is truly awesome, only 0.45pF and 0.1pF differential!

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I think the 0.45 is what you see at the inverting input in a TIA config, which is still damned good.

It only costs $6 or something like that.

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The effective input capacitance is small, but the usual reason for caring about that is the rising current noise, which this part does nothing to fix.

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The phase shift with that kind of op-amp is always very large in any of the data sheets I've looked at (only a few). Is there some reason for that? Is it reduced by negative feedback to more reasonable levels?

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Not intended for unity gain.

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I guess it has the same problem of a bootstrapped jfet, namely the voltage noise of the bootstrap driver, this one being cmos. But if the semiconductor geometry is really small, and the pre-bootstrap capacitances are small, there is some real benefit.

But 7 fA/rthz is mediocre. Some fet amps are 30, some are below 1. Not bad for a 4 GHz amp!

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The open-loop gain -3 dB point (45 degree lag point) is about 3 MHz for this part. Most opamps are -3dB at 10 Hz or so.

All opamps have close to 90 degrees of lag in their operating range. Yes, negative feedback reduces closed-loop gain and phase shift.

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You said it. But you would never use something that noisy as a bootstrap in a built-up circuit, and there's no way to turn it off.

Since it makes the noise worse, they obviously did it to keep from having to use 100-ohm feedback resistors to avoid instability. It sort of looks bad if your part has to have a phase lead cap to avoid oscillating.

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