Re: A Quesion for Sylvia Else (stun guns)

THis shows how little you know about machining gun parts. Just like audio, you are clueless. Some people build assault rifles in home workshops that rival anything mass produced. They are more accurate, less likely to jam, and are easier to repair than a Chinese import. As far as killing for sport, i don't know anyone who does that. Guns have been in the family for generations, and the only animals ever killed were either for food, or to protect their livestock

Why would I fly half way around the world to hang out with drunks, when I don't drink? They need to up your medication, just like Phil. How about the news story a few years ago, that reported your fine government killing the man the 'Crocodile Dundee' character was based on, for not giving up some of his guns? That is a nanny state.

You are full of rage. Against anyone who believes in owning a gun for protection. I guess all that cheap booze you drink in your local pub has done excessive brain damage?

So what? You have absolutely no clue, do you?

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Michael A. Terrell
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**Really? Give me the homicide figures for (say) NYC, where concealed carry is illegal and Miami, where concealed carry is legal.

Or that a lot of that

**The issue is not which US citizens are killing each other, but how they were so easily able to acquire the firearms. Lax US gun control laws, across all jurisdictions, ensure that those with violent tendencies can easily obtain the weapons that they require.
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Trevor Wilson

**Would you care to explain these comments?

Some people build assault rifles in home

**Which would be illegal in Australia. The penalty for doing so is quite severe. Far in excess of the value of the weapon. Anyone with the equipment and talent to do so, would likely be gainfully employed.

They are more accurate,

**YOU may not. The people who lobby for the industry in Australia fully support the needless suffering of native animals and the polluting of pristine environments with lead.

Guns have

**It is not compulsory to consume alcohol in pubs in Australia. In fact, it is not compulsory to consume anything. You may just drop in for a chat with the locals, if you wish. Of course, if you lack the balls to back up your silly comments in person, that's a whole differrent matter. Your type requires a gun to threaten people with your point of view. I use words, not violent threats.

They need to up your medication, just like Phil.

**What news story? Care to cite that news story?

That is a nanny state.

**What is a "nanny state"? A state where criminals are arrested and punished?

**So you say.

Against anyone who believes in owning a gun

**"Against anyone"? Huh? Please expalin this leap of logic.

I guess all that cheap booze you drink in your local

**I don't drink.

**I was asking what your point was. Perhaps you'd care to phrase it in English.
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Trevor Wilson

**Broken Hill. Mostly. Other mining areas.

Could you quantify the amount of

**Far too much. Duck shooters are an irresponsible bunch of cretins. They don't care where their lead ends up. They have no care for the suffering of the animals they shoot. They make no attempt to collect the poison from the environment. They are worse than illegal dumpers.

Tell me why you seem to think that lead shot is OK to leave in pristine environments. Tell my why it is OK to kill native wildlife, such that they die painfully and slowly. Do you enjoy seeing the suffering of animals? Duck shooting is violent and cruel. Why do you support such cruelty?

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Trevor Wilson

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Trevor get's so nasty when his prejudices are challenged, he's even gone as far as offering to have a friend shot another poster

I wonder if this friend with the "VARMIT" thing is the same one who can STOP his heart?

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John - Melb

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Typical anti-gun lobby swill.

Laurie Levy, Victorian President of the "Coalition Against uck Shooting has previously claimed that every Victorian duck season dumps

40,000 tonnes of lead shot into Victorian wetlands.

Unfortunately, when you work out the number of cartridge that would need to be fired for this to be true, then divide that number by the numbre of licenced duck hunters, then work out the cost of those cartridges to each duck hunter, you find that for this "factiod" to be true would require every licenced duck hunting in the state of Victoria to spend $104,000 AUD per season on cartridges?

Anyone interested may also like to Google the "Russell Method" it was a convoluted mathematical thought process design to show how much lead went into wetlands, and how many ducks were maimed each duck season. It was found to be utter bullshit.

Victorian duck hunters have used "non-toxic" (ie steel or bismuth) shot for a number of years now.

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Fascinating, Trevor makes an assertion, and then asks another to defend his livestyle against that assertion.

His pathetic arrogance really is quite enterteining.

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John - Melb

Yep, criminals are arrested and punished, except in Victoria when a criminal is found is possession of an automatic pistol with the serial number ground off!

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John - Melb

Miami is a cesspool of illegal aliens, drug dealing and street gangs. It is also a large area, and some parts are not safe. it also has a lot of the Cuban criminals that Casto dumped out of his prsions. Like the early days in Oz.

Easily? Go to a gun shop, let them run a Federal background check, and buy one. Or in your case, steal one.

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Michael A. Terrell

If the guty is such a great shot, why is Trevor still alive?

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Michael A. Terrell

Or selling over priced, crap audio?

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Michael A. Terrell

**Here is your claim:

"He is ignoring the fact that areas of the US that issue 'Concealed Carry' permits have the lowest number of gun crimes, and the ones that refuse to allow you to carry have the highest."

You neatly avoided answering my questions. Answers which would have shown your rhetoric to be complete and utter bollocks. Let's compare (say) Houston (where concealed carry is legal) to NYC. Is that better?

**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun shows'. At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here in Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.
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Trevor Wilson

It's more likely that fewer guns end up in the hands of law-abiding people who, when they have the occasional brain-snaps, don't have that particular means at hand to do as they wish.

So far as criminals are concerned, the restrictions on the sale of guns means very little. For example, the events in Melbourne this week.

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"Licensed gun dealers that sell at gun shows must, by federal law, strictly adhere to background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System."

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John - Melb

Compare what? You've give two names, but no numbers. Its your ignorant claim, so dig up the proof.

So, you attend all these guns shows and see all those illegal transactions?

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Michael A. Terrell

Lying trolls never let facts get in the way of their wet dreams.

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Michael A. Terrell

**Just a reminder: It was YOUR claim, not mine. Here is YOUR claim:

"He is ignoring the fact that areas of the US that issue 'Concealed Carry' permits have the lowest number of gun crimes, and the ones that refuse to allow you to carry have the highest."

I asked you to prove that claim, by using two examples. _I_ did not make a claim, you did. Thus far you have fulfilled my expectations of you. Which is to say: Very, very low expectations. You refuse to discuss anything that shatters your tiny world view. You refuse to validate your claim. All you can manage is hollow rhetoric.

**Of course not. Nonetheless, my mate who live in Cal has attended such shows. He confirmed what actually occurs. Unregulated sales of firearms are very common. It is well known that second hand guns are sold at gun shows and no background checks are performed in many cases.
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Trevor,

You know, those some comments fit you to a "T"

"You cannot articulate what you want to say with any clarity" Yep, that's you, how many times have you "SHOUTED" "Read what I wrote" when everybody else is having no trouble whatsoever communicating?

"You have an aversion to the truth" Yep, like the time you claimed that you had a friend who could stop his heart, or the time you claimed your local library kept Lott's work in the fiction section, or perhaps the time you claimed the FBI-UCR for 1976-86 were available on the FBI website,?

"You have a fixation that equates gun ownership to masculinity" You certainly have a fixation regarding gun ownership and gun owners, every time you get spanked on a gun relate forum for lying, you run away to a non-gun related forum and continue posting rants about guns and gun owners, last time it was rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi, this time it's aus.electronics.

There is certainly something wrong with you Trevor, you're a self centred, extremely arrogant indvidual, with an almost pathological contempt for any opinion that differs from your own, and for the holders of those opinion. You're prepared to lie to prove a point and don't feel at all guilty when your lies are pointed out. You have got it into your head that a particular group within society are evil, and will attack and vilify that group, or those you see as supporting that group at any and ever opportunity.

Get help now, you are one very sick boy.

And I mean that sincerely Trevor, I don't want to see you put in a giggling academy, I would miss our little chats too much, but your behaviour does appear to be deteriorating and you should seek help..

Regards

John Mc.

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John - Melb

Found elsewhere

--------------------------------------------- In states with widespread gun ownership and tough punishment for gun misuse, criminals surveyed were often unarmed: 54% in Oklahoma, 62% in Georgia, 40% in Maryland, 43% in Missouri, and 35% in Florida. In Massachusetts, however, only 29% of the felon-respondents were unarmed. In that state, it is difficult lawfully to acquire a firearm, and the illegal carrying of a firearm, rather than the criminal misuse of a gun, is subject to the mandatory penalty. The survey data indicate that the criminals' fear of an armed victim relates directly to the severity of the gun laws in the state surveyed. Where gun laws are less restrictive, such as Georgia and Maryland, criminals think twice before running the risk of facing an armed victim; they are much less concerned in Massachusetts.

Fifty-six percent of the felons surveyed agreed that "A criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun;"

74% agreed that "One reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot."

A 57% majority agreed that "Most criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police." In asking felons what they personally thought about while committing crimes, 34% indicated that they thought about getting "shot at by police" or "shot by victim.

Taken from

NRA-ILA The Armed Criminal in America __________________

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John - Melb

I agree he needs a lot of help, therefore I am putting the loser back in the idiot pit, rather than clutter these newsgroups with anything he can whine and lie about. He isn't worth anyone's time, and certainly, I've wasted too much time, putting lipstick on that pig..

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Trevor, neither of the threads you posted report that the "McDonalds gunman" was a licenced gun owner.

CITE your references to support that assertion

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John - Melb

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