Internet Exporer in trouble again

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"Meanwhile Mozilla has released a scheduled update for its open source Firefox web browsers for at least 10 different vulnerabilities."

geoff

So, when the W3C change their minds AGAIN as to what conforms, all the people who conformed before the changes should be shot? And you call the US bloodthirsty.

Google Chrome works well, and it's a much faster browser.

I have been using Firefox for years now There are no websites I have used that need IE anymore.

This sort of thing is one of the reasons for the shift, apart from IE being in the stone age re; features compared to FF

T.

The bizarre thing is that if you contact them and explain that their web page does not conform to standards, they will tell you that "it works fine with IE" as if that was the universal standard!!! Fortunately the companies I have to deal with, like the bank and credit card companies seem to understand that IE is not the only "true" web browser.

Rick

I have used FF for years also, however too many program launch IE without your control over it.

I heard more reports that the virus only affects Windozer V7.

Don...

I still encounter a few. Not sites that really are incompatible, but the ones that look at the user agent header and refuse to play ball with anything that is not IE. User agent switcher takes care of those and also adds the handy capability to appear to be a Google bot...

How do you know ?

geoff

I suspect he has performed the complicated task of entering the URL and seeing if the resultant display appears to be coherent.

How does that demonstrate the relative 'features' of a browser he does not use and/or in unfamiliar with ?

geoff

and I get so many chunks of software that go fetches IE, even if you have FF set as your default browser.

You buy software, go fetch help when needed, and IE magically opens up. :-(

Don...

I don't know about IE being quite "stone age", but as a long-term Firefox and Opera user, it is always a painful experience if I have to use IE for some reason. IE just feels so much slower and more awkward, it's annoying to have all these adverts (compared to Adblock Plus on Firefox), and it's annoying to have to use Google's standard pages (compared to cusomisegoogle on FireFox). And apparently IE *still* has trouble with simple downloads - if the file on the website has changed, but not the URL, IE gets confused when you try to download the new version!

The reason IE is banned at our office is its security problems. The reason no one complains about the ban is that everyone agrees that Firefox and Opera are vastly better.

You have to make sure the IE settings for the "Internet zone" are set to the highest level. Help browsers shouldn't need ActiveX and all that junk, and normally work fine.

What other good reasons _not_ to use 'Doze can we think of?

"You knew I was a snake when you took me in." (From a once-popular tune. I don't recall the title.)

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You have basically said what I felt about it when I made the"stoneage" comment. Like many Microsoft products, its just more "painful" and clumsy to use, little thought or effort seems to have gone into making it "easy" or "friendly" for the average person.

I haven't used Opera for about 3-4 years, it was good except that there were just too many sites (at the time) that it had problems opening or displaying. Internet banking was also a problem.

When Im in a public location, or at another computer that has only IE, these differences are painfully obvious. My wife still uses it sometimes for unknown reasons though :).

There are plenty of good reasons to use Windows, and plenty of good reasons to use something else - the best choice depends on who you are, what you want to do, and how you want to do it, as well as obvious things like hardware and software support. Windows has its place, as does Linux, MacOS, BSD, and other OS's. Anyone who insists that a particular OS is *always* the right choice, or always the wrong choice, is being fanatical.

On the other hand, saying IE is *never* the right choice is not fanatical - it's simple fact :-)

Couldn't have put it better myself :-)

Though I only boot a Virtual MSWindows when called to help someone over the phone, MSWindows still has its place for various people due to the application(s) needed that are not available on other platforms.

However I try to get everyone to use Mozilla's Firefox/Seamonkey or Opera as IE is simply dangerous.

Cheers Ian B Manners

In message , David Brown writes

Sounds fanatical to me.

Currently using Safari, Opera and IE (on Windows, OSx and Solaris )

What's the alternative? Firefox? Firefox got number one position in apps that have security holes.