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Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?

Now with NBN freecalls becoming a norm, something must change even better?

Who is doing Turnbulls FttN copper to home?

This was the culture of Telecom in those days.

That's when they came to my place when it was raining to say to wet to dig. Then you would see the truck with digger parked near the pub.

Nothing to congratulate Telcome in my area. All flamproof couldn't be fired!

Pissed me off and I'm not the only one.

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Yes it was.

That is for a different reason. When you use the 046 line, you can call more places further away from Sydney proper for a local call charge than you can when you use the 02 line. Same with the 02 line, that allows you to call more places north of sydney for the cost of a local call.

Only because you pay extra per month to get that.

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Rod Speed

Yes it did.

That is not correct. You pay extra per month for that.

What ?

Dunno, ours used largely unmarked Avis rental vans.

The bigger trucks used to dig the holes that the nodes are above, in the green metal boxes, were also unmarked, presumably also rented.

Yeah, contractors make one hell of a difference.

Yeah, there will always be some stuck with them.

Just went out to talk to the monkeys in Telstra van parked in the main street this morning. He said that those they signed up yesterday when it was there got a start date of 3 Jan for their FTTN service.

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Rod Speed

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Rod.

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Petzl
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With my existing bundle all calls are timed.

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F Murtz

Thanks, same to you and all the other denizens in here.

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Rod Speed

Well depending on who you sign-up with and what bundle you choose, very likely timed calls will be dead.

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I have just signed up for timed non local calls, because I call using voip which is untimed.

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On 23/12/2016 9:47 PM, Petzl wrote:

I lived in the 03 Zone in suburban Melbourne, first in Armadale, then later in Nunawading. Back when I had my first home phone installed, I could ring anyone in the 03 zone for an untimed local call. You might note that the 03 Zone covered a huge are back in 1980. We could call St Albans on 03, Belgrave on 03, Dandenong, Frankston, Greensborough and many more outer urban areas all on 03. To ring anyone outside this area into a 0xx zone meant timed local calls at a rate that varied according to the distance each was from the 03 zone. The adjacent 0xx zone call charge rate wasn't huge but it was enough to give you cause to limit your conversations. I don't recall if someone just over the boundary, as in your case, was dealt with in the same manner but I suspect it was as you say. All of my friends in the 0xx zones were well over the boundary.

However, and this is where the confusion arises in the minds of some, the 03 zone was eventually divided up into *Neighbourhood Zones*. These zones were all still 03 *but* the tariff system changed. I remained in the inner NH Zone. Some friends in St Albans ended up in the Western(?) NH Zone, some other friend in Ferntree Gully ended up int the Eastern(?) NH Zone. I could ring either for an untimed local call and they could ring me on the same deal since we were on *adjacent neighbourhood zones*. However, if the people in Ferntree Gully wanted to ring the people in St Albans, that was a *timed local call* because their zones were separated by the inner zone. They were not adjacent. The call rate was not huge but it did stop people using internet modems from leaving them permanently connected if their provider was in a non-adjacent zone. I think that may have been one of the motivations, apart from the obvious one of increased revenue raising. I recall that *Telecom* back in the days was always on about untimed local calls being a problem. I can see that it would since people were just starting to connect to the internet with dialup modems in a big way and tying up the limited number of inter-exchange lines available. The problem with the system was that you received no indication that it was a timed local call - no STD pips. If you weren't privy to the existence of Neighbourhood Zones, you suddenly ended up with larger than expected phone bills.

The Neighbourhood zones were always published in a map located, IIRC, in the front section of the White Pages and there was some publicity at the time of the introduction of the zones.

It's all moot these days since untimed calls, even national, have become the norm nowadays. I've been on untimed national call plans for some time and, prior to that, I was on a 99 cent cap for a set period. the choice of set periods was 20 minutes, 1 hour or 3 hours. I always chose the 1 hour period. If you went over your set cap, timed rates applied and, since I was always calling interstate, it didn't take long to rack up 10 or 20 dollars in the next hour. Solution was to hang up and redial after, say, 59 minutes and get another hour for 99 cents.

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What you say is true for *Neighbourhood Zones*. Different system applies for 0xx zones.

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You must have been on the very extreme end of the 02 Zone. In Melbourne, the zones did not extend that far out from the Melbourne CBD. That's likely because there's not much *east* of Sydney central before you get rather wet. ;-)

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Must be a piss poor bundle - or cheap.

I have bundled internet and home phone with untimed local and national calls, even to mobiles regardless of provider. The only calls I pay for are 1300 numbers and that's generally a flat fee, at least it is with the numbers I call.

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It is telstra in an area where they are the only option (till now with NBN soon)It is $80.00 200gb(they may have upped it)ADSL2+ All calls timed,with these phenomenal speeds Ranging from this

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They wont see me for dust very soon when the NBN deign to switch on their already laid fibre.

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F Murtz

Does that include mobile calls nationally? Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to get mobile calls included in package. Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not come off my data count/use).

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I don't know what type of FttH you guys are using but here in NZ we use a 'PON' Passive Optical Network (GPON to be exact). It only needs power at the home and the exchange. In ground plitters etc. are passive, no power required.

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No, the voip doesn't.

Sure, but most have unlimited calls to mobiles with the mobile.

I went for unlimited data. Didn't cost any more, $60 a month with 100/40, with myrepublic.net

There are various levels of included calls for an extra cost per month with that, $20/month with unlimited calls to national landlines and mobiles.

Not very attractive to me, I would be better to go with the amaysim $25/month plan and get unlimited calls to landlines and mobiles that way and be able to do that when not at home. I make the absolute vast bulk of calls to mobiles when out and about on the garage sale run.

Currently I'm on the pay as you go with amaysim and mostly only pay $10 a month or so for all calls, texts and data. Most of those I call for other than short mobile calls have unlimited calls to mobiles so they just call me back when I call them.

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Rod Speed

I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs. Does that sound reasonable?

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Lucifer Morningstar

For $40 a month you can get all local, national, and mobile calls from your Telstra mobile.

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Same deal I have but FttN so getting what was promised with ASDL resullts from

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Good speed now but FTTP would be better.

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