Cockies in the cable

Not sure, but I reckon this now ex manning training centre lecturer would have taken it;

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:> Which part of the curriculum covered the Cocky Cable snatching phenomenon? : : : :Not sure, but I reckon this now ex manning training centre lecturer would :have taken it; : :

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Bob Philpot was '56 TIT intake.

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Ross Herbert

Bob was one of the lecturers for some of us '86 starters.

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Dennis

thanks Phil for your wonderfully objective assessment of Telstra's efforts. I expected no less from you.

And yes, I *have* been personally "sleeves rolled up and tools in hand" doing 14-16 hour days, ten days straight, in immediate post-cyclone service restoration.

But again, in case you missed it, this isn't about me (or you) - it's about the fact that a cocky attack seems to have been unexpected.

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who where

Give up why don't you. The story read as an interest story on what happens when animals attack. It's a "shit happens" event not worthy of any more than passing interest, and a new patch cable. Except that it happened to Telstra is not relevant as it happens all over the Country, and elsewhere, and has been happening for as long as man has entered their domain. Birds, Wombats, Ants, Termites, tree roots and numerous others all try their best to enjoy themselves on what we do. It happens to to Telco's, electricity suppliers, water/sewerage suppliers etc all the time, but do you denigrate all of them each time something fails?

Build a bridge and get over it, shit happens and will continue to do so. Nature will continue to show up Man's weaknesses where ever it can and the best we can do is marvel at their ability and determination and try harder to defeat them. Short of killing all wildlife you're not going to eliminate it all together. You can try to minimise the risk, but the story is about getting communications links back and working in a temporary fashion ASAP in remote locations. Until conditions improve where ever this happens you can never get a permanent repair done.

To try and use this event as a means to express your personal grievances with Telstra more means that you need to get a life. To denigrate Telstra staff on this one event does a disservice to all and just shows you to be just a petty whinging shit. You may get some attention in the short term with your whinging, but the stories of the bird exploits will far outlast you and they at least will be smiled at, you will easily be forgotten.

PhilD

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PhilD

Nope, its actually about there not being any viable alternative available at the time.

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Rod Speed

Friggin white cockies landed on my new TV antenna this morning.

4 per side on the largest element, one bastard on the end was swinging upside down just to take the piss.

They pulled off all the little black plastic end plugs and flew off leaving one of the elements bent. Bastards.

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Dennis

Thats what shotguns are for.

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Rod Speed

Then do like "who where" and bitch about it and denigrate the Company & Staff of who made it because it should have been anticipated :-)

I was watching one a while back in our yard that as it walked down a branch it was snapping off twigs that were in it's way to get further along. Others take a peck at fruit, decide it wasn't ripe, drop it then go to the next one and eventually strip the tree. They can be fun to watch and appreciate, for some people.

PhilD

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PhilD

We used to live in a house with a bottle brush out the front. A mob would land in the tree and just nip off all the little branches and drop them on the ground.

One evening a couple of hundred roosted in a really big gum tree near our place for the evening. After dark I went out and waved my green laser pointer over the tree - one squawked and they all took off in a cloud screaming their heads off - it was a bit of an "oops" moment.

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Dennis

Lead by demonstration woddles and apply it to your large flapping lips

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atec77

Take it back for a refund. Any outside TV antenna that cannot withstand cockie attack is clearly unfit for purpose.

Sylvia.

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Sylvia Else

the time.

Cite?

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who where

My comments have nothing to do with personal grievances, just an observation that the outcome could/should have been foreseen.

You, on the other hand, go off the deep end as an ex-Telecom/Telstra person. "Methinks he doth protest too much"

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who where

No, but I know and worked with many of the people doing that work and in much of the same areas. I can assure you that I never saw any that didn't put in a great effort to get people back on line ASAP, often with very little in the way of thanks other than that they were paid to do it.

The best thing you could do is log off, change your moniker and reappear commenting on a different subject that you may have at least some credibility about, because you've shown none here. You're also wrong on the "methinks" bit because apparently you don't.

The only thing you've proved is that some people (your parents) should never have been allowed to breed.

PhilD

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PhilD

who where wrote

the time.

Dont need a cite for something as basic as that.

Have fun listing what viable alternatives were available at that time that werent used.

And YOU made that claim.

YOU get to do the citing anyway.

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Rod Speed

the time.

With a reputation as shitty as your there is a dire need to see a cite and nothing but a fool opinion would claim otherwise

werent used.

You failed to prove the facts wrong

Not how it works d*****ad , you claim otherwise you prove

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atec77

You've only established one thing so far - when you're in an argument you can't help but resort to personal attacks. Pretty piss-weak in my view.

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who where

Give it up, you're the one who branded as incompetent all Telstra (and it's fore runners) staff right at the start. You're so bloody hopeless you can't even remember your own statements. The first rule a bullshit artist like you should learn is ALWAYS REMEMBER YOUR CRAP.

Like I said, logoff and create a new identity, you've used this one up.

PhilD

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PhilD

"atec77" wrote in message news:ioqrpj$vpq$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me...

I would regard myself as an outsider in this personal issue and it's the d*****ad "who where" that needs dealing with in this case. I would agree with the comment by Rod. The people who go out and do these faults don't always start the trip to the fault knowing what has to be done. So often its location could be identified but what they will find there could be far worse than anticipated. Regardless of issues of staff/equipment shortages you don't go to an unknown fault location with trenching/ploughing gear, km's of new fibre and a large crew. It can be down to a single person who has driven a very large distance in a van, or a light aircraft with limited equipment, or a helicopter with even less gear, then a borrowed vehicle to the site. At times even a hovercraft has been trialled or just a plain ally dinghy. The cause of the fault could be as a result of flooding that have taken out roads that stop a full repair job. To expect that every fault will allow a full repair crew and heavy equipment to access the site immediately is just ridiculous. You can't compare how a repair might be handled in a Capital City to what happens in remote areas of the tropics in the middle of the Wet Season. As the subject repair was done in a temporary manner it should be accepted that it was just the appropriate thing to be done at the time. That it was then subjected to the Cockie attack is just one of those bad luck things. Unless anyone can prove that there was more to it, people should just accept it as that and move on. The story reads more like one of those animal interest stories that are used by the media to fill in when there's no real news.

One of the earliest stories we used to hear was about repair crews going out to an open cct open wire line to find that overnight thieves had stolen miles of copper wire. You just can't attend every fault with every bit of equipment to repair every conceivable fault. This is no less true these days.

That the d*****ad "who where" has fixated on the word's "not anticipated" while failing to give equal relevance to the word "temporary" just shows a lack of education as it apparently hasn't got that far in the dictionary yet. That the d*****ad had expectations that more should have been done and claiming that it had worked in that region and infers that it knows the conditions must be bullshit. Claims of having worked in Derby and Kununurra is meaningless to the remote sites the repair crews have to access. If the faults were only within those places with the access to all they needed the staff would be overjoyed.

PhilD

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PhilD

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