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Re: CFLs Compulsory for All ??

They are.
Knock on the door,
waffle.
"what time tomorrow?"
No luck as I had them already installed.
Didn't get down towhich gov it was.
So, buy a pack of incandescents for when they knock on your door {:-).
I've had 3 offers of free cfls so far. 2 lots of 5 and 1 total. One
neighbour had 22 lights changed (and conned a few spare).
Will have to see if that includes the garage? {:-).

Re: CFLs Compulsory for All ??

Any reliable links to total life energy comparisons between
the 2 technologies? You're gonna get plenty of doubters
otherwise.
Also, my first thought was that technology and market forces
would solve the technological shortcomings of CFL's. But then
I realised that would no way happen for just the tiny
Australian market...

Re: CFLs Compulsory for All ??
"Geoff C"

** Only a real world survey of actual CFLs in actual use could ever reach a
correct conclusion - hypothetical math exercises are all purest bollocks
!!!
CFLs do not last their claimed service lives, in most cases.
CFLs lose light output during their life - unlike incandescent lamps.
CFLs do NOT generate the equivalent light output of the incandescent lamp
size printed on their packets - says " Guide only - actual light output
not equivalent " on the Philips Genie pack.
Disposing of circa 50 of million of them each year would be a MAJOR
environmental pollution problem - safely disposing of fluoro tubes is a big
enough one right now.
The CFLs we have here are not PFC, not " lead free " and have poisonous
materials in them ( ie mercury).
( The humble incandescent lamp is inherently PFC, has no poisonous materials
and hence is not a pollution problem. )
PLUS !!!!
The ONUS is on the makers of CFLs and those promoting the idea that we
must use them where ever possible to PROVE there is a significant overall
social benefit to be had.
They have had years to do this already.
The silence is deafening.
....... Phil

Re: CFLs Compulsory for All ??

**IME, the Philips meet their claim. I checked mine with a light meter. 23
Watt = 125 Watt incandescent. I found the lifespan of the 125 Watters to be
abysmal. 3 months, at best. The 23 Watters have been running for 2 years and
still going strong. I agree that lower Wattage lamps are probably better
with incandescent. At higher powers, CFLs rule. I even replaced some PAR23s
with CFLs. Superb, but a long warmup is a PITA. These are branded Nelson and
have a crap colour temperature.

**Every incandescent I have has lead in it. Lots. As much as fifty or sixty
soldered joints.
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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
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