They were Franklin's own " No Frills" brand, labelled as being 3000K.
Now, 3000K is close to the colour temp of an incandescent bulb ( the more common kind are 4100K ) and described as " cool white ". So I took the punt and bought one.
It lasted about one second and failed.
But for that brief second, the light was soft and sorta yellowish.
Back it goes.
...... Phil
I reckon someone must have dropped it. But you're right the quality of ones I brought varies too. Philips seem to be good.
I saw those at Franklins the other day and wondered (1) How they make them so cheaply, and (2) If they're any good. Thanks for the info!
Bob
** Good tip.
I'll get my replacement one from the BACK of the peg.
** Had a couple of Osram brand ones where the tubes came loose from the base.Superglue helped them last for a bit - then total demise.
Maybe got 25 hours out of each.
But I'm an incorrigible optimist and will try a few more - before carrying my " ultimate solution " and hording heaps of incandescents while you can still get them.
....... Phil
That's why the cheap ones come in boxes of four - some of them will probably work. Junk.
"Fun Tyme" wrote
That's why the cheap ones come in boxes of four - some of them will probably work. Junk.
***Wotta wanker!!So do 40 Watt ES or BC lamps,do some of them "probably" work? Wotta wanker!
Brian g
Oh look, another newsgroup 'professional' !
The office girls purchased "several boxes of four" from the local shop, as the price looked right. Save one, all of these lamps died within 3 months of use, two of them NEVER drew any current. These lamps came four-to-a-pack in a blue and yellow box, at home here at 0430 I can't tell you the Chinese brand name.
These are the FACTS giving qualification to the comment, and I am terribly sorry if they don't please you.
So, please feel free to hop back into your box whenever you are ready.
FNT
**I've had a few CFL failures. None were Philips. All failures were mechanical. The last one, the result of a possum jumping/falling on a horizontally mounted cheapie (freebie, actually. I got it, along with a bunch of others from those guys who give them away, then claim 70 Bux from the gummint). Spend a few extra Bux and try a Philips. I like the 23 Watt helical (though Philips incorrectly claim it to be a spiral) ones. Nice colour temperature, good light output and mechanically robust. Chinese made too. 6-7 Bux at Bunnings. ES or bayonet caps.
I had another thought: Will the government also phase out LED lamps? After all, these over-priced pieces of crap are around the same efficiency as halogens, which puts them around 20% of the efficiency of flouros.
-- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
In the UK the local Morrisons supermarket had 18W Philips CFLs originally £3.50p, then discounted to 99p then at 99p - buy one get one free. At the same time their own brand was £1.99p, both types have proved fairly reliable over many months. Way back when they started selling them the price was £6.50p, at which price it was just about worth attempting repair of faulty units (most often the electrolytic failed). At the price they are now I just chuck the few duds I get in the junk box incase I think of a use for any of the parts.
How do you relate LED lamps with being inefficient? Al I ever heard was theyre the next step up, rather than down.
**They're inefficient compared with almost any discharge lamp. They produce about the same (white) light as a typical halogen.
Al I ever heard was
**You're being lied to. I suggest you contact the ACCC. The whole LED thing is a scam. LEDs have their uses, but general lighting is not one of those uses.All are significantly less expensive than LEDs. The energy efficiency of LEDs is a con. When taking the angle of radiation into account, LEDs are barely more efficient than a regular, good quality incandescent. They certainly can't compete with Xenon or halogen lamps.
-- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
Interesting, then why are all traffic lights being converted to these if they're no good ? Long life etc.? Less power used? Is the government also being lied to as opposed to them lying to us?
"Jonno"
** What an absolutely ASININE question.** The only reason.
Failed traffic light lamps are not just expensive and awkward to replace, they are a MAJOR safety hazard.
....... Phil
**Points:
**MUCH longer life. It saves the gummint heaps.
**Yep. Coloured LEDs are much more efficient than incandescents, combined with a colour filter.
Is the government also being lied to as
**Nope. You just haven't properly analysed the reality of life and the correct and APPROPRIATE uses of LEDs. For room illumination (the topic we are discussing) LEDs are s**te.-- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
What an asinine answer. You really don't know what you're talking about them do you?
"Jonno"
** Don't annoy me with tripe like this, Jonno.YOU just demonstrated what an utter ASS you are.
Fuck off.
...... Phil
"Trevor Wilson"
** Here are the latest and best performing white LED arrays:No significant energy saving is mentioned - long life is the obviously biggie.
....... Phil
That was expected.!
**Indeed. Very impressive, though I'd like to know how they keep the damned thing cool. 600 Lumens from a 25 Watt LED array is nice, 'till you work out that the same light output can be obtained from a 6 Watt Fluoro. Wait 'till halides start going mainstream. They're already used in high end automobiles and they are even more efficient than fluoros. Very long lasting and robust too.
-- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
The answer was expected. Youre a nice guy in your own mind. Cant get your way and throw a tantrum. I asked a question. You delicately answered as is your nature. Nutz to you Phil, youre a safety hazard. I hope you dont drive. Road rage appears very likely with your type of instability.
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