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Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:31:31 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"

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I think Trump should knock off any attempts to repeal/replace/whatever
the ACA... let it run its own course pointing out (frequently) that
this is what you get when you're dumb enough to vote Democrat.

When average premiums reach $1K/month and deductible skyrocket _maybe_
the village idiots will get the message.

(Actually I think there will just be more screaming to tax the rich
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Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
Jim Thompson wrote:
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They'll scream for completely socialized medicine because "insurance  
doesn't work" which was the plan all along.  ACA was only intended to  
destroy the insurance industry.




Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:54:39 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"

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It's pretty clear that MANY of the posters here have NO IDEA how
insurance is supposed to work.
        
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Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
Tom Del Rosso wrote on 7/19/2017 4:54 PM:
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What many people don't appreciate is that the existing medical system isn't  
good for providing care for everyone.  It is good for providing care for  
those who can afford it.  If you have insurance, you get good care.  If you  
have no insurance and no money to pay for the care, you get very poor care  
or in many situations, no care.  So those who don't see these failings in  
the present healthcare system think any change is for the worse.  In spite  
of the many discussions here and elsewhere that have clearly shown these  
failings because presently the system is changing to improve the system for  
those without at the expense of those who have the idea persists that we are  
headed for a destruction of healthcare in the US.

Personally I feel a healthcare system that is based on having insurance is  
doomed to failure.  It was failing previously for the 15% without insurance.  
  Now it is failing in the literal sense for a lot fewer people, but others  
don't like the consequences, the expenses.  That too is a result of the  
system be dominated by insurance.  When insurance is removed from the  
equation, the system will right itself and be able to function properly.

Do you believe socialized medicine will not be an improvement?

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rickman wrote:
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That's what medicaid was supposed to be for, so obviously it failed and  
the government can't solve people's problems.


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Socialized nothing is an improvement.




Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
Tom Del Rosso wrote on 7/19/2017 9:10 PM:
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So if the government ever does something and doesn't get it perfect the  
first time, it is because government shouldn't be doing that in the first  
place?  So we should never fight a war because we can win all of them like  
in Vietnam?  Should we stop trying to save lives on the highways because we  
can't protect everyone?  Should we stop trying to fight house fires because  
we don't save everyone?


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So there you go.  For you it's not about the healthcare.  It's about your  
personal political beliefs.  End of discussion.

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rickman wrote:
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If you replace medicaid you should repeal it, but no social program is  
ever repealed.


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Those beliefs are based on facts that have been demonstrated for a  
century and ignored by those with your beliefs.




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Tom Del Rosso wrote on 7/19/2017 10:10 PM:
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This makes no sense whatsoever.


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What are my beliefs?  I've given facts and you start spouting dogma.  
Medical insurance has not worked because it only provides care for those  
with more resources.  For those who aren't as well off medical care is  
simply not available.

Ok, then let's abolish all government medical programs, medicaid, medicare  
and the ACA.  How do you propose to provide medical care for those without  
insurance?  Keep in mind that if you get really sick, you will lose your job  
and lose your insurance.  I know people this has happened to.

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rickman wrote:
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And your claim that this was the first failure of socialism is typical  
of your absurd arguments.

And I might add that if the ASA is for the poor then it shouldn't change  
everyone else's lives, but socialism has always turned everyone's lives  
upside down.




Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
Tom Del Rosso wrote on 7/19/2017 11:04 PM:
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Your reading comprehension is pretty poor.  I didn't say anything like that.


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You mean the ACA?  So what part of paying taxes has *not* affected everyone?

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Rick C

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 3:10:14 AM UTC+2, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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The US medical system cost half as much again per head as the universal hea
lth care provided by the most extravagant of the other advanced industrial  
countries.

Part of the problem is that the US system isn't universal, which makes admi
nistration more expensive. Pretty much everybody else calls their system "n
ational insurance" and most of them follow the model set up by that arch-li
beral, Bismark, when he wanted to steal his socialist opponentent best vote
-getting idea. They all work, and they all work better than the US system f
or the population as a whole. The UK national health can be a bit spartan,  
and conservative governments have been known to starve the system to the po
int where the queues get a bit long, but it still delivers much better heal
th indices for the UK as a whole than the US can dream of.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 4:54:45 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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Total bullshit! Insurance industry profits are sky high! The damn law was w
ritten by a WellPoint exec so what do you expect. The scum in Congress thin
k they're rulers, they are NOT, they are representatives. We tell them what
 to do, they don't "give" us anything, we PAY for it. They better enact sin
gle payer if they know what's good for them.

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On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 7:24:37 AM UTC-7, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wr
ote:
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 written by a WellPoint exec so what do you expect. The scum in Congress th
ink they're rulers, they are NOT, they are representatives. We tell them wh
at to do, they don't "give" us anything, we PAY for it. They better enact s
ingle payer if they know what's good for them.

The insurance companies are struggling so much they can only afford to pay  
their CEOs $10 million a year...

http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/top-health-insurance-ceo-pay-exceeds-
10-million-2014

http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/health-insurance-ceo-pay-tops-out-at-
22m-2016

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
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doesn't work" which was the plan all along.  ACA was only intended to
destroy the insurance industry. "

No, the ACA was written by the insurance industry. Gives them a captive market, and they get to make 20 %. News flash, they weren't making 20 % before. Oil companies would suck a mile of donkey dick to make 20 %. Look at their stock values.  

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:37:55 -0700, Jim Thompson

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He's said that's the next step.  This set the lefties off howling
about how the *Republicans* own it.  They really are stupid.
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Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
Tom Del Rosso wrote on 7/19/2017 4:31 PM:
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You could always get medical insurance after you were sick.  Before you had  
to get a job with insurance and after a year pre-existing conditions are  
covered.  Now you have to wait for open enrollment which could be up to  
nearly a year.  The idea that you get sick and can immediately get medical  
insurance is pure applesauce.

His comments were about paying the same regardless of age which no insurance  
has, life or medical.  He's not very good at creating analogies.  A better  
analogy would be buying life insurance after you were dead.  But if you  
aren't alive you aren't likely to be buying anything.

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Rick C

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT),
snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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Everyone knows that the square root of 16 is the sign of the devil.
Math!! Bad! Bad!

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
You guys are so gullible - that's not real:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/missusa.asp

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On 7/18/2017 11:16 AM, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
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Correct. Robert Rolan first mentioned it and I re-ran it. It became  
obvious then.

Re: Should Math be taught in schools? Lets ask the "Miss USA pageant contestants"
On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 12:17:28 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
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You're being cynical. The real contestants would have answerd the question just like in the video.

Are you saying this incoherent ditzhead is not real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII&feature=youtu.be


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