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Re: Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:19:02 +1100

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    Of course proper pre-emptive multitasking first appeared for home
computers in the Sinclair QL in 1984, followed shortly by the Amiga in
1985. Both of these were earlier than Windows 1.0 with it's rather poor
implementation of cooperative multitasking and a long time before
pre-emptive multitasking arrived for Windows in 1995.

    Now just in case you're going to claim that cooperative
multitasking on the desktop was an MS innovation - Apple got there nearly
two years earlier with the Lisa, and DRI got there even earlier with MP/M
in 1979.

    Sorry Rod - multitasking on a personal computer was not even
remotely close to being a Microsoft innovation. Got any other candidates ?

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Wasnt what was being discussed.

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Nope, never ever did. I JUST said that it showed up in Win before it did with
the Mac.

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Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

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Already rubbed your nose in a list of them.



Re: Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:14:10 +1100

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    As far as I can see all your suggestions have been debunked, apart
from vague phrases with no content. So please once more let us see an
example of Microsoft innovation - here just to set the ball rolling I'll
give you the only one I know of.

    BASIC in a ROM as the command interface of a microcomputer was
AFAICT a genuine Microsoft innovation.

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TI 99/4?

Re: Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:04:22 -0500

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    That was 1979, Altair BASIC was 1975 (but that was on paper tape)
by 1977 there were a number of ROM based machines using it.

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of Microsoft innovation - here just to
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Done by Microsoft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI_BASIC_ (TI_99/4A)



Re: Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:00:12 -0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot  

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Marketing, not technical innovation was/is? their main forte.


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Corse we never ever saw anything like that from Apple, eh ?



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Another lie, you havent debunked even a single one.

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More of your lies.

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Already rubbed your nose in a list of them.

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Your problem.


It aint the only one.



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And along with it, the misspelling of "OK" as "Ok", which has gone viral.

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anyway.
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So was windows until NT.

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anyway.

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Nope. And that was well after multitasking in Win anyway.



Re: Rare Apple I computer sells for $216,000 in London
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:42:52 +1100

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    You missed the point - until NT Windows wasn't an OS, MSDOS
was the OS and Windows was an addon.

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anyway.

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Yeah, looks like it.

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Thats a lie.

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Another lie.



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Were you even around in the pre-Win95 days?  The way it worked was that
DOS would boot, then you'd start Windows (or AUTOEXEC.BAT would do it)
using the WIN command.  Windows 3.x and its antecedents were really just
DOS shells with fancy APIs available, kinda like GNOME is not the same
as the underlying OS but adds its own APIs.

It wasn't until WinNT/Win95 that you could boot Windows directly as a
bare-metal OS. -- Joe
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Indeed.   And I remember thinking when W95 came out (late!) how much
Microsoft had "borrowed" from MacOS, AmigaOS, Next and the *nix window
managers.

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95 and 98 were still DOS underneath, you could close 95 and get back
to the dos prompt, with a little tweaking you could do the same in 98

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And, after that, it was NT underneath.

/BAH

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bare-metal OS.

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Only for booting, not for normal ops once booted.

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Irrelevant to what did the work once 9x was booted.

And even NT, XP etc use a relatively primitive system
for the boot phase that isnt used once they are booted.

So does *nix.