rPi Zero non-WiFi

Searching by SKU (SC0019) found them, and Rapid Electronics have stock

I can't recall ever seeing one at all, ever.

All Pi zeros seem to be sold out. I expect they are starting fires all over Russia... :-)

Bugger me. They do exist!

Unless they are using these:

Must have not found out about this one:

Available: 149 pcs

(No WiFi or BT.)

I still maintain that without the SKU, its not very searchable, everything tends to return zeroW or zero2W.

Well yes, as I said I had no idea such a beast existed.

TBH the couple of extra quid for the wifi doesn't bother me much

Adafruit lists the Pi Zero v1.3 as in stock for USD10.

At least until 2030, apparently.

Thanks, they sound like they have a real downer on USPS for international deliveries, VAT is payable whether I order from UK or overseas, so that's fine, duty is a more of a question mark, but as I've said I'm expecting delivery from Rapid Electronics

Yeah. international is a crap shoot these days. I bought a refurbished Lenovo, not realizing the company was in Canada. It circled the drain at customs for almost a week with the tracking alternating between cleared and waiting for clearance. There was no duty on it.

Raspberry Pi Zero will remain in production until at least January 2030

(According to

but WHICH Pi Zero?

There are Pi ZERO, Pi ZERO W, Pi ZERO 2W,...with or without headers

The presence of absence of headers is beside the point.

The boards each have their own product pages and their own obsolescence statements (which all currently say January 2030).

I think a lot of OS folks want to get rid of ARMv6, so I would not be surprised if OSes start dropping support soon after that date. Aside from the Pi 2 v1.1/1.2 (Cortex A7), everything after that supports 64 bit Linux.

Interesting, the Pi 2 obsolesence notice (the only one so far) says end of life was 16 October 2025 but the last shipment date was 30 June 2026. So there's still about 9 months after EOL before production actually stops, which means Raspberry Pi OS support will likely have to continue some time after 2030. But other OSes may well drop support sooner.

Theo

Ah. i only saw one generic statement

Running 64 bit code on something with only 512MB is very painful, I tried and gave up on a Pi 3A+, where as you can just about get away with it on the 1GB Pi 3B+.

The problem with supporting ARMv6 boards, is that has to the lowest common denominator for the user mode code running on all 32 bit Pi's (the specific kernel for the architecture is always used). The prevents the use of ARMv7 optimisations which would give a small performance improvement.

But most importantly for the OS developers would be the same minimum architecture level as Debian, removing the need to separately test all the packages under ARMv6.

---druck

Running a GUI desktop is painful on 1GB, manageable (at a pinch) on 2GB. I find that to be true pretty-much regardless of whether the code is

Running 64-bit code without a GUI -- for example on a headless device running a web server and/or ssh -- seems to be fine in 512MB, or at least as fine as the same thing in 32 bits.