Browser video problems on Bookworm

Yes! Thanks for joining. Please see the thread "Video speed at a crawl". There are some replies, but no solution. Druck suggests having a look at video codecs, if some are hit and some not. I do not know how to find which codec a video s using, except that a mp4-video shot with my phone is playing normal, but nearly every video shown in a browser will not work (speed like 2-3 frames once in a while). For example if you go to

you will see a teaser-video running fine, but if you click on the "Play" button, the video starts, but at a crawl.

I realy hope to find a solution to this. Else I will have to replace my Pi5 with a mini-PC

Best regards

Thanks, I didn't make the connection till you pointed it out.

Far as I can tell, they don't even crawl....

I just found a 10 second ideo on this page which does at least play. It's silent, however:

Could the absence of sound be significant? Has anybody tested whether Wayland is the problem? Can't remember if I'm using Wayland or X11 at the moment...

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska

That video:

file: does not contain any sound:

$ mplayer Syrphidae_-_kanagawa_japan_-_2023_11_9.ogv MPlayer 1.5+svn38446-1build5 (Debian)

Playing Syrphidae_-_kanagawa_japan_-_2023_11_9.ogv. libavformat version 60.16.100 (external) libavformat file format detected. [lavf] stream 0: video (theora), -vid 0 VIDEO: [theo] 1516x920 0bpp 25.000 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) ========================================================================== Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family libavcodec version 60.31.102 (external) Selected video codec: [fftheora] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Theora) ========================================================================== Load subtitles in ./ Audio: no sound Starting playback... [snip]

These ones do:

how it says 'audio/video file' rather than 'video file' on yours)

You can download the original file by clicking on the timestamp in the history section, so you can test it in a video player instead of the browser.

Theo

I guessed as much. I was wondering if the _lack_ of audio in the file might have something to do with why it played in chromium. It was the first "no audio" file I encountered since the trouble started.

The run timer stays on 0.0, but the progress arrow momentarily starts, then retreats, when the play arrow is clicked.

Same empty window, no progress arrow at all.

Not sure what to make of these observations.

Is there a command to indicate whether the system is running wayland or x11? I thought there might be some hint in the dmesg output, but I don't see anything: dmesg | grep -i wayland yields no output, dmesg | grep -i x11 reports [ 2.297074] xhci-hcd xhci-hcd.0: hcc params 0x0240fe6d hci version 0x110 quirks 0x0000808000000810 [ 2.429562] xhci-hcd xhci-hcd.1: hcc params 0x0240fe6d hci version 0x110 quirks 0x0000808000000810 [ 3223.945638] x11: fffffffffffe0000 x10: ffffd06fcfc583a0 x9 : ffffd06fce51cf30 [ 3223.945839] kthread+0x11c/0x128 which doesn't look relevant, at least to me.

IIRC, some earlier trouble emerged when using Wayland, which motivated the use of x11. Now I don't remember which is in use.....

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

One really low-level test you can conduct is

1) Use “youtube-dl --print urls «video-page»” (feel free to use one of the youtube-dl successors, like yt-dlp) to get the URLs of the direct video/ audio streams. Beware: they can look pretty gigantic. 2) Pass one of these to ffplay (part of the FFmpeg suite) to see if it can play them. Or even VLC, if you prefer.

That just takes the browser completely out of the loop, to see if the problem might lie elsewhere (or not).

ldo@theon:~> set | grep -i wayl QT_WAYLAND_RECONNECT=1 WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0 XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland

I just tried copying an old mp4 file that used to play in Chromium via http to my local Pi5. The video has incidental sound. Played locally with VLC the video runs, but silently.

Played locally with chromium, it does not run at all. Progress bar stuck at zero.

Not sure what to make of this behavior, but it does seem that chromium fails worse than VLC.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

Do you have any extensions installed which may affect video, such as h264ify?

Is Firefox any better?

---druck

The only manually added extension is ublock.origin. It wasn't causing problems before the OS update. Turning off ublock.origin and h264ify and restarting chromium made no difference.

Not really, it still doesn't play but does display the initial frame. Turning off extensions (h264ify and ublock.origin) makes no difference.

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

The latest bunch of updates seem to have fixed video playback. YouTube behaves normally, my mp4 file plays also.

Not sure what was broken, but it's fixed now

Thanks for reading!

bob prohaska

OOI what were the latest list of updates?

It has to be something relatively PI /ARM specific.

On 18.05.2025 03:30, snipped-for-privacy@www.zefox.net wrote:

Still not fixed here.

3 hours ago there were no updates, but 20 minutes ago there was a huge upgrade available. I installed it, took a snapshot of the process, rebooted, testet, no cure, took another reboot, still no cure. Youtube not working, and not video from other sources. The videos run but extremely slow. You can see a few new frames evry 2 to 5 seconds.

The upgrade ran with 300-350 lines. I saw nothing special, except this almost at the end of the upgrade:

Setter opp openssh-server (1:9.2p1-2+deb12u6) ... rescue-ssh.target is a disabled or a static unit not running, not starting it. ssh.socket is a disabled or a static unit not running, not starting it. Setter opp python3.11-dev (3.11.2-6+deb12u6) ...

Could this be because I am running from a NVME?

The whole process can be seen here (it is speaking norwegian:

Følgende pakker vil bli oppgradert: base-files bash busybox cpp-12 debian-archive-keyring distro-info-data g++-12 gcc-12 gcc-12-base imagemagick-6-common libabsl20220623 libasan8 libatomic1 libcap2 libcap2-bin libcc1-0 libgcc-12-dev libgcc-s1 libgfortran5 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-bin libglib2.0-data libgomp1 libgssapi-krb5-2 libhwasan0 libitm1 libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 liblsan0 libmagickcore-6.q16-6 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-6 libpoppler-cpp0v5 libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler126 libpq5 libpython3.11 libpython3.11-dev libpython3.11-minimal libpython3.11-stdlib libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 libqt5gui5 libqt5network5 libqt5printsupport5 libqt5sql5 libqt5sql5-sqlite libqt5test5 libqt5widgets5 libqt5xml5 libstdc++-12-dev libstdc++6 libtsan2 libubsan1 login openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server passwd poppler-utils python3-h11 python3.11 python3.11-dev python3.11-minimal python3.11-venv qt5-gtk-platformtheme ssh wireless-regdb

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Nothing in that upgrade appears to be video related at a cursory glance.

Have you tried a dist-upgrade?

Thanks for checking the upgrade process. Concerning the "dist-upgrade" I did a search and found this:

"A dist-upgrade is a process in Linux systems that upgrades the entire operating system to a newer version, including all installed packages. It typically involves using commands like apt-get dist-upgrade to ensure that all dependencies are properly handled during the upgrade."

So I am quite ready to do a "sudo apt-get dist upgrade", and will do it "after lunch". After all, am ready to go for a mini PC to replace this RP5 if it is not fixed.

Again: Thank you very much for the tip.

Yeah. sometimes updates get 'held back' especially newer kernels. I do this if I see anything 'held back'.

Cant do any harm though I doubt it will do much good. Remember to reboot after.

Did the dist-upgrade, and it did nothing. It ran, but "0 to change" etc. And the same problem persists after a few reboots.

At least it is not hardware related, as when booting from an old SD card, video and sound works perfect. I have a backup on a SSD but it won't boot. I changed boot order in Raspi-config, connected the SSD to USB, rebooted and got the menu where you can change boot to USB, bot it timed out. Right now the install on SD is updating. Just curious to see if video the again is gone bad :-)

Best regards

A good question. The GUI updater offers no hint of a history function. Anybody know the answer?

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

Try journalctl | grep "apt install"

Or look at /var/log/apt/history.log and it's archived versions