Why don't camera reviews cover the data connection to the PC?

as i said originally, not everyone is near a store.

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OK, so you just want excuses. Have it your way. Don't do anything, but complain. When I started in electronics in the early '60s almost everything was mail order from various printed catalogs. 30 days was the usual wait for anything. Backorders were common, as well as canceled orders. I mowed lawns and did any other job someone would pay a teenager to do to buy tools, parts and service data. I taught myself electronics starting at eight years old, and by the time I was 20 I tested out of a three year EE school in the US Army.

Now you have electronic order processing and overnight delivery on lots of parts, yet you bitch because you can't take three steps from your couch to the store. Parts and equipment are dirt cheap, easy to find and well documented today. The only 'bargains' in the '60s was electronic surplus. Mostly worn out or damaged military or industrial surplus from W.W.II. You had to dig through piles of junk to find something repairable, and take your chances. Some equipment was so bad that it was sold by the pound. Even then, it was over an hour drive to the nearest surplus dealer.

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On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:43:47 -0600, krw wrote in :

Regardless, it's quite workable and useful.

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Useful, yes, when it works. unfortunatelyy its design makes the workable part problematic. For such modest requirements it's a

*really* bad design, even for the '70s.
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On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:30:37 -0600, krw wrote in :

That you've had so many problems with it is unfortunate. Perhaps I'm just lucky, because I've had very few problems with it over the years.

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How many "large" systems (say, 20-30 devices) have you tried to put together. The connection problems with large numbers of devices are huge, though I've seen them with only a couple of devices on a channel, as well. cablingg gets to be a mess (and you'd better have lots of different lengths on hand to play with).

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I have a Fluke PM97 Scopemeter for which I paid AU$2750. Just about everything's broken in it. Bad probes, bad batteries (soon after purchase), bad AC adapter, bad logic board. Even one page of the $100 service manual (the power supply circuit diagram) was missing. For the past 10 years or so the meter has been sitting in the cupboard. One day I'll have another go at repairing it, otherwise I'll stomp on it ... again and again and again ...

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Sell it on E-bay as 'May need repaired' ;-)

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I never use the software on my cameras. I take the memory card out and stick it in a universal card reader. Same can apply to phones.

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There was absolutely no need to invent more than TWO types of B connector. A big one and a little one.

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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:38:46 -0000, "Peter Hucker" wrote in :

big one and a little one.

Different devices have different requirements. The big one is stronger and easier to use for devices with sufficient size. The small one is designed for small devices.

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big one and a little one.

Agreed. What I object to is the large number of varieties of the small type.

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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:14:10 -0000, "Peter Hucker" wrote in :

big one and a little one.

There are only two, mini and micro.

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A big one and a little one.

There are only two standard ones. There are also a couple that only fit certain makes of camera. The only place I've found to get these is to look for a cable designed for that particular camera on ebay.

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On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:27:41 -0000, "Peter Hucker" wrote in :

A big one and a little one.

That's typically because the camera also has audio-video output that needs its own connections, and because size and cost are often issues, a proprietary combo USB-AV connector is used. But the camera usually comes with the requisite cable, so there's no real issue unless you're careless enough to lose it. ;)

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On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:37:27 -0000, "Peter Hucker" wrote in :

standard type A USB plug to go into a PC.

Which cameras?

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standard type A USB plug to go into a PC.

One was a basic model Benq, the other I've forgotten the name of.

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