My electronics tech is having trouble fixing an SAE Two amplifier model A-14. It has no audio output. If he shorts across a relay the audio works fine. He has a good service manual but can't track down what the problem is. Does anyone know what the problem may be specifically? It was repaired for the same problem by another tech and the repair didn't last long. I do know that 4 ohm speakers are a no- no. He's testing with headphones. Sure would appreciate some help here. Please eMail me at snipped-for-privacy@verizon.net. Harvey
SAE Two amplifier model A-14...no audio output. Help?
Mar 26, 2008
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I had one of those years ago that did the exact same thing. The first time, it was the relay itself. The contacts were corroded. I replaced the relay which fixed the problem for a few months. Then whatever drives the relay went out. I ended up just bypassing the relay with intentional solder bridges and using it like that for another few years. The only thing the relay does is avoid a minor "thump" on power-up so it isn't really needed if the amp is operating normally otherwise. ...Pat
I'm sorry, but that is absolutely *not* the most important reason for the relay. Whilst there is a delay in activating it to avoid the switch on thump that would otherwise ensue as a result of the output stage supply rails stabilzing, its much more important function is to disconnect the speakers from the output stages in the event of a fault developing which causes there to be a DC offset at the midpoint. If this is allowed to find its way to the output terminals, the result will likely be a destroyed speaker cabinet.
So, whilst bridging the (non active) relay will cure a lack of output, assuming that it is not failing to close because its control circuit *is* actually detecting a fault, you will have lost any future insurance against speaker damage, if an output fault should occur ...
Arfa
You are correct. In my case, I made sure there were no problems before using it that way, but you are correct that I was risking a future problem damaging my speakers.
Hello Harvey,
While I don't know this amp in specific, see if it uses the TA7317 protection IC. It's a great IC and was used by many manufacturers. I've seen the electrolytic capacitors around the IC cause problems, as well has high value (150K or 220K as I recall) resistors go off value. The IC itself rarely fails.
I would not suggest bypassing the relay.
Regards, Tim Schwartz Bristol Electronics
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