Nady TD 1, guitar tube distortion effect pedal

Anyone else been here before ? End of line , being sold without the power adaptor, presumably ran out before the units sold out. Contains a valve so the wall-wart supply is 9-0-9 V ac and 3 wire for an internal step up transformer ( presumably , not looked inside yet), no great problem there to do that. But the connector on the unit is a 3 pin locking din, like CB mike connector, but the pin spacing is non standard, 5.5mm between pins rather than 5 mm. Looks as though I will have to quote silly money to mold up a compatable line socket as he wants compatibility with his mates unit. And I think he wanted another one made up for another mate of his. Normally, in such situations, I would change both parts of the connector to something standard or just wire in through a gland.

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N_Cook
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Norm:

What is a "gland" called on the western side of the big pond?

Bob Hofmann

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hrhofmann

On 3/28/2009 6:29 PM hr(bob) snipped-for-privacy@att.net spake thus:

I would guess a grommet, but I think they (UK) have grommets over there too.

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David Nebenzahl

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Norm:

What is a "gland" called on the western side of the big pond?

Bob Hofmann

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More than a grommet, a way of anchoring the sleeving , by compression ring or joggled clamp. So the cable cannot twist and twist and ventually fracture inside the box. So what are those called in the US ? and I will add to my translator

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N_Cook

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Is this another valve con job? (dated 2004) Had to get inside to check the wiring as cold testing not consistent with a transformer and no confirmation anywhere other than anecdotal/verbally that the supply is 9-0-9 ac, centre ground.

That feeds a bridge R and then 7806 and 7906, 4 4580D smd opamps and a

12AX7. Where is the HT supply ? caps are 10V,16V or 50V, input socket contains 2 crudely epoxied small unlabeleed black lumps with 6 pins one has pin-pin resistance readings of 13K,360R and 0.1R or less the other 18K,360,720, 0.1R or less So perhaps transformers there, but smps combined with input amp in a can? ?. A smd 8pin device marked AD 741 and OP 275G and a few TO92 transistors but nothing SMPS looking inside.

Then the final test, the wiring to the valve. Whether plugs are in or out of the 1/4 inch sockets the anodes of the genuine looking , but no label valve, are connected to one end of the heater chain. No viewing hole to let the owner see the presence of a glowing valve for the psychological effect of the valve sound. This unit is new working order as the owner checked it with another owner's ps.

Incidently note the various casing screw lengths, on disassembly as the long ones would touch the pcb if replaced wrongly

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N_Cook

On 3/29/2009 12:34 AM N_Cook spake thus:

I could tell you what they're called here if you could explain what a "joggled clamp" is. Never hoid of such a thing.

Sure it's not what we call a "strain relief" fitting? Those are usually only used for power (flat) cords.

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David Nebenzahl

A gland is the name for a close fitting surrounding a shaft, pipe or cable, designed to prevent the ingress of foreign matter - liquids, dust' ect, or leakage of lubricants etc.

Ron

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On 3/30/2009 2:40 AM Ron spake thus:

That answers that question, but what is a "joggled clamp"?

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Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in
the product.
Contains Pears:  One pear seed per multiple tons of product.

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David Nebenzahl

The cable entry glands that come in two parts, linked together, that require a D shaped cutout through the chassis and joggle the cable where it passes through, so locking against rotation and being pulled out.

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N_Cook

yes, it`s like a saddle clamp, which forces the cable into a U shaped indentation, generally ensuring that one or both of the conductors fail in a very short time - horrible design.

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Ron

:>>> David Nebenzahl wrote: :>>>> On 3/29/2009 12:34 AM N_Cook spake thus: :>>>>

:>>>> Sure it's not what we call a "strain relief" fitting? Those are usually :>>>> only used for power (flat) cords. :>>> A gland is the name for a close fitting surrounding a shaft, pipe or :>>> cable, designed to prevent the ingress of foreign matter - liquids, :>>> dust' ect, or leakage of lubricants etc. :>> That answers that question, but what is a "joggled clamp"? :>>

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:>> (with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers) :> :> :> The cable entry glands that come in two parts, linked together, that require :> a D shaped cutout through the chassis and joggle the cable where it passes :> through, so locking against rotation and being pulled out. :> : :yes, it`s like a saddle clamp, which forces the cable into a U shaped :indentation, generally ensuring that one or both of the conductors fail :in a very short time - horrible design.

If you mean one of these

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then your comment about conductor failure surprises me. In the 30 years (approx) these have been around they have been used in countless appliance applications and I have never seen cord conductors fail at the strain relief point. Of course it would depend to some extent on how much flexing takes place at that point. But they were never intended to be used where constant flexing at the cable entry point occurs. Where flexing at the entry point is unavoidable, bend reduction techniques must be employed in addition to cable securing.

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Ross Herbert

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Wow....thats a little tiny piece of crap IMO. Found a gut shot of it and there's nothing in the box hardly. Its a starved plate design. It may have a simple voltage multiplier to get a plate supply of

30-40vdc....kinda like the "tube driver" branded boxes from the early 90s.

Where are these being sold at and for how much? The box may be good for something if its a closeout deal....

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boardjunkie

no larger voltages on the valve than the -6 volt and +6 volt to the heaters and unit worked perfectly normally when tested .

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N_Cook

rs

So what voltage was on the plates then? I doubt a 12a*7 will do much of anything at a 12v plate supply.

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boardjunkie

The penny has dropped

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N_Cook

On 4/3/2009 1:12 PM snipped-for-privacy@techie.com spake thus:

Sounds like the tube is a phoney-baloney device, as Norm suspects: just there for show.

"Tube sound" my ass. (In this case, anyhow.)

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Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least
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Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in
the product.
Contains Pears:  One pear seed per multiple tons of product.

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David Nebenzahl

The ARN-6 Direction finding receiver used 24 volts on the plates of all the tubes, which were mostly 12SN7. It was one of the hottest AM DX radios I ever owned. It drew 28 A @ 24 volts before I converted it to solid state. The 400 Hz Copper supply for the antenna servos drew most of the power. After the conversion, it ran on a single 9 volt battery, when used with an external audio amp.

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Michael A. Terrell

On 4/3/2009 1:48 PM N_Cook spake thus:

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David Nebenzahl

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The point of the device seems to be clipping, which will=20 happen at a low signal level with LV plate supply. Thus,=20 "tube distortion"!

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Jitt

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