CRT Monitor with weird random colors

Hi, I 've got a Samtron 78E 17" CRT monitor standing around here. The only thing it does is faintly displaying random color gradients. I've uploaded a picture here:

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Can someone tell me where I need to be searching for this kind of problems? I've already checked the components visually, non of them appear to be burned out or anything, and I've redone all the soldering joints. All to no avail, the image on screen remained identical. Of course I also tried resetting it to factory default settings before opening it up. The behaviour also isn't caused bij the graphics card, as it does the same wheter it's plugged in (in several computers) or with the d-sub hanging loose. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance Jindrich

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fionadehamster
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Looks like the degausser is not functioning. Typical rainbow pattern.

Was this monitor dropped?

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I've tried to degauss it by placing it face to face with another monitor and repeatedly degaussing the other one (I've read that should degauss both monitors), and haven't noticed any difference. A drop was also my first suspicion, but my sister (it's her monitor) claims it just started up like this one morning. I've got no way to verify the truth on that, so I can't say for sure.

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fionadehamster

I doubt that would work,,,who knows! LOL

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Any suggenstions on how to find out wether the degaussing is functioning properly then? I can't see the OSD menu, so I can't make the monitor degauss itself...

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Jindrich

Does it display a picture that is normal except for the colors?

If not, degauss is NOT the problem.

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Sam Goldwasser

Nope, the screen keeps displaying an image similar to the one I posted a link to. There is nothing even resembling the image that should be on-screen. The color patterns change slightly when connected to a pc set to display different images, but essentially all you get is a rainbow (not nearly as bright as the one in the picture BTW, I increased the contrast of the photo so it would be better visible).

Any input as to what the problem may be then?

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fionadehamster

OK, it has nothing to do with degauss. If the only problem were incorrect or lack of degauss, the display would have wrong colors that varied across the screen, but there would still be a recognizable picture.

Can you take a photo of the entire screen?

Do the user adjustments do anything?

From the photo you provided, I can't even tell if it's got a raster or just some random blotches of color.

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Sam Goldwasser

Here are some better pictures. I marked the corners of what should be the viewing part of the screen with red crosses. The patterns are only clearly visible in a dark room, so it's not that easy to make a clear picture of them.

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The screen alternates between these two patterns with the d-sub cable disconnected. According to the manual the screen should be performing some self-test when disconnected from the computer, I'm assuming that those alternating patterns correspond with different output I should be seeing during the self-test.

Jindrich

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fionadehamster

Hard to say, but for want of a better explanation it looks like the CRT's vacuum could have been lost. If so, the monitor is scrap. Has the monitor been dropped or roughly handled? It's a long shot but I've seen a similar thing once before.

Dave

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Dave D

I forgot to reply about the user controls: they are all controlled by an OSD menu on this monitor, and I can't see it. I pressed the 'menu' button for 10 seconds, which should have reset the monitor to factory defaults according to the manual. I think that's all I can do for now about the user adjustments.

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fionadehamster

Sounds like a deflection circuit failure is causing the beam to hit the inside of the tube somewhere rather than the screen.

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James Sweet

No matter, the monitor is broken and will need to be fixed before the user adjustments are of any use.

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James Sweet

"Sam Goldwasser" bravely wrote to "All" (19 Jan 06 11:44:08) --- on the heady topic of "Re: CRT Monitor with weird random colors"

SG> From: Sam Goldwasser SG> Xref: core-easynews sci.electr > Nope, the screen keeps displaying an image similar to the one I posted > a link to. There is nothing even resembling the image that should be > on-screen.

SG> OK, it has nothing to do with degauss. If the only problem were SG> incorrect or lack of degauss, the display would have wrong colors that SG> varied across the screen, but there would still be a recognizable SG> picture. SG> Can you take a photo of the entire screen?

SG> Do the user adjustments do anything?

SG> From the photo you provided, I can't even tell if it's got a raster or SG> just some random blotches of color.

It could be an open or a short either inside the CRT or in the FBK/Focus/Divider. A nearly impossible thing is that the yoke might have slipped off or a rubber wedge fell off tilting it.

A*s*i*m*o*v

... You mean 15" sparks are SUPPOSED to come out of this thing?!?

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Asimov

Kinda looks like the rainbow pattern ya get when you loose vertical deflection on the some of the Philips TV's.

The beam scatters along the edge of the CRT and creates a similar pattern like yours.

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