Any difference beetween: Refurbished vc Rebuild vc Remanufactured?

The device was broken when it left the factory, it was sent back to be fixed. Now it's back in the store

I'm not sure about this one. Probably a cosmetic fix.

There was a flaw in the design. It was corrected and signed off by a engineer. Then the device was fixed by the manufacturer.

The device broke and some 3rd party fixed it. Think engine rebuild -> taken apart and all worn & broken parts were replaced.

np

Dwayne

well they all start with R

repaired and cosmetically resembles stock

repaired and made close to stock functionally

repaired and made better then new

repair with lots of parts replaced

The tech took a quick look and didn't bother to fix it.

The tech cleaned the cabinet and didn't bother to fix it.

The tech replaced a fuse but otherwise didn't bother to fix it.

taken

The tech put a new cord on it but otherwise didn't bother to fix it.

No, no, no, that's what is the 'same', the difference is that the words have different number of letters.

Other than that, they theoretically can mean different things (as described in another Email) but basically they all mean the same thing .... it was faulty, had a minor fix & is being sold at maximum profit.

They only mean what the seller wants them to mean, I'd say. Never seen any legal definitions.

In replacement car engine terms I'd say

a) Checked and ok. Maybe repaired with re-claimed parts. b) The major wearing parts - like pistons - replaced. c) All wearing parts replaced. d) Fully remanufactured to the standards of a new makers unit or better.

Refurbished and Reconditioned are grand words intended to give confidence to prospective purchasers. In some places, Refurbished and Reconditioned means they've just polished the outer case of whatever the item is. In some other places they just mean faulty customer returns that have been repaired.

In some cases, take for example Hewlett Packard and Toshiba, Remanufactured means that the original units were either overstock at the importers, or overstock at the resellers (high street retailer of your choice) When a newer model is introduced, the old models can no longer be sold at a profit so the units still in stock are returned to the importers or manufacturers agents who repack them and sell them out at a much reduced price to firms who specialise in stacking them high and moving them fast. In the UK

It can also mean the the unit was returned as faulty and replaced by the store who then returned to unit for repair to the manufacturer or their agent who returned the unit to as new condition.

Ron

The terms all include Re-, which could also mean that the first owner Refused to own it (for numerous reasons), and that someone feels that there is a good chance that they can Re-sell it. It appears to be a good gimmick here in the U.S.

I'd consider getting something with a good rebate over trying to save money by bying Re- merchandise.

The likelyhood of something actually being Factory Reconditioned is highly unlikely, since most products aren't sold in the same country (or even continent) where they're manufactured. Nearly all of the Re- stuff is done by sub-contractors, and is probably just the lowest bidder.

There are a lotta terms that are used loosely that are just convenient ways of saying that the item was previously owned, and is now being recycled if someone will buy it again.

In recent years, you don't know what you're getting, even if the article isn't specifically marked as something referring to being previously owned.

When I bought a new (not re-anything) Packard Bell 1020? monitor about ten years ago, the enclosed literature stated that the unit was (or may have been) manufactured using components that included remanufactured/reused components which meet required specifications.

Before that monitor, I had a crappy looking monitor from that Shack store, that appeared to be a Re-something with a model number that didn't appear in their product line (wasn't in any of their catalogs). It seemed to be a previous not-very-good model in a new case, assigned a different model number, and sold as a new unit.

Manufacturers, retailers and repair depots will obviously do almost anything to squeeze more profits out of returned, poorly designed, badly produced and possibly even damaged in shipment goods.

Cheers WB ................

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It's a cynical view, but one I fully agree with. When I started my job as a typewriter technician at IBM in 1975 we were offering a reconditioning service which involved the replacement of all wearable components. The service was quite expensive, but you ended up with an as-new typewriter.

At about that time some other companies offered a much cheaper "refurbishing" service. They'd put the typewriter through a solvent bath, then re-lubricate it - that was that! You ended up with a machine which looked brand spanking new - but was a worn out old heap of junk.

Whatever the service being offered - refurbishing, reconditioning, etc., I'd want to know exactly what work was done, and some guarrantee of such work.

Henry.

I'd

I bought a 'refurbished' printer from DAK which jammed up. I found an oversized paper clip had jammed in the gears and stripped them. Nice work.

The fact is that most things like consumer electronics these days are made in near fully automated factories - and perhaps in low wage countries.

So to strip and fully recondition them then reassemble could well cost more in labour than a new one. Some things you *know* will deteriorate with age - CRTs etc. And capacitors. But much solid state electronics doesn't have a defined life. The solder however may well have.

Refurbished - an overused term that has come to define an item that is used and tested operational at this time. It used to mean repaired at a factory or ASP level after the item failed DOA or nearly new. Now the term applies to anything that is used and happens to be still working and that proper operation has been assured by the seller. It's all B.S.

Hi...

Darned spin-doctor talk. Hate it!!

Car dealers have "demos". Supposedly good. Really, really means that it's been driven hard by various and sundry people who have no vested interest in it at all. Worse than used.

Maybe the survivor folks could create a new reality show. Instead of outwit, outlast, outplay it would be outlie, outcheat, outuse.

Rant over.

Ken

You mean Pre_Owned... Sounds better than USED

I think they have graduated to 'pre-loved' these days

David

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