Just our luck, she has probably already created offspring.
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Just our luck, she has probably already created offspring.
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No matter what anyones opinion on it. it was McDonolds Fault for settting the temp to high. Thats why they had to Pay-out.
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They had previously been sued for exactly the same thing and so knew what they were doing - *that's* why they got hit so big!
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:10:02 GMT, "Techie" Gave us:
The hell she did. She bought hot coffee, and should know not to stick the damned thing in between her legs.
She didn't deserve a goddamned dime.
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 18:43:57 GMT, "daestrom" Gave us:
The coffee pots have fixed plate temperatures. Line voltage can swing... yada yada yada.. still same temp. in the pot.
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 19:14:22 GMT, Spehro Pefhany Gave us:
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It was initially $90M, and that got reduced, and I believe the reduced figure got reduced.
In other words... she all but lost on appeal.
On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 22:37:29 GMT, "Techie" Gave us:
Were that true, which it is not, it would have been Bunn Corporation paying as it is they that set the temperature of their coffee machines.
It was a frivolous suit pretty much.
Keep a fire exstinguisher handy!!......Ross
Drinl it at 180F? Not likely. It's not likely "she" was burned by 180F coffee either. It cools rather quickly though 160F wouldn't be unusual. At 120F, keep it.
A good friend had a DD franchise when this nonsense went down. Their specification was 180F (give or take three). If they didn't *maintain* that specification they were fined by corporate. Coffee is brewed hot and isn't worth squat cold. Sorry.
Again the Dunkin' DOughnuts specification was 180F, so McD's wasn't out of line. The stupid broad who put it inbetween her legs and the lawyers milking the system were at fault. We're all paying for stupid people and the lawyers who prey on them.
-- Keith
Err, we do like to exaggerate. She was 81. ...old enough to know not to put a cup of coffee between her thighs, WHILE DRIVING! Sheesh!
-- Keith
Actually, they were notified with about 600 complaints of burns caused by their coffee being substantially hotter than usual for coffee. Also about their coffeecup lids being unusually tight and lacking cutaways for sipping, so that people often ended up dislodging the whole lid with a jolt that often led to a spill. The palintiff in that famous lawsuit at first asked for only reimbursement of her medical bills, but McD's refused. Despite the fact that it was obvious that she would not have incurred such medical bills if the coffe was not at an unusual temperature for coffee.
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As for those who want to complain about trial lawyers? I say there are more obvious targets!
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
The coffee was at a temperature unusually high for coffee (most coffee does not cause the burns that occurred), the lid was notably unusually difficult to dislodge from the cup without spilling said unusually hot coffee (McD's got a good 600 complaints about these issues), and the plaintiff's first move was to request only reimbursement of her medical bills.
Those who want to complain about lawsuits and trial lawyers should easily find cases where the plaintiffs and/or their lawyers were a lot more undeserving. See my other post in this thread!
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
No, the original award was about 2.something or close to 3 million, reduced to closer to 2 million by the jury because the jury determined that the problem was 20% her fault. Reduced on appeal and settled out of court.
Those who want to complain about lawsuits and trial lawyers should have an easy time finding other cases to support an anti-trial-lawyer cause that I can easily agree with. See my other post!
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
No, McD's had the temperature set unusually hot on the advice of a consultant (or more than one). As for reason - I keep hearing two competing ones: A) Coffee is unusually hot so it remains hot after many miles on the road B) Unusually hot coffee emits aroma that stimulates coffee sales.
The burns were real and the fact that the coffee was unusually hot for coffee was real. The fact that the coffeecup lid was more difficult to open without spillage than was available was real. The fact that it is easy to find many lawsuits much more frivolous than this one is real. Those who want to bash trial lawyers (something I often agree with) should use as examples those really frivolous ones rather than a high profile one that conservatives latch onto but which is not one of the really frivolous lawsuits if you know all the facts!
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
Actually, they were notified with about 600 complaints of burns caused by their coffee being substantially hotter than usual for coffee. Also about their coffeecup lids being unusually tight and lacking cutaways for sipping, so that people often ended up dislodging the whole lid with a jolt that often led to a spill. The plaintiff in that famous lawsuit at first asked for only reimbursement of her medical bills, but McD's refused. Despite the fact that it was obvious that she would not have incurred such medical bills if the coffe was not at an unusual temperature for coffee.
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As for those who want to complain about trial lawyers? I say there are more obvious targets!
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
150 F I have to sip it slowly. When I want coffee the usual reason is that I want caffeine. Especially should I buy it from McD's, whose coffee is $#!+ at any temperature. Whe I buy coffee I want it to be not so hot that I burn my tongue if I drink more than 2 grams of it at a time!
Any takeout coffee temperature directives for higher temperature have to be for one of these reasons:
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
-- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny." -F.Z.
There is, of course, a website:
Dean
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I took a glance, no news to me yet!
I propose a few things that I have proposed on Usenet before. These should be enough to get trial lawyers lobbying for job retraining programs!
Back to Point 3: Besides the issue of caps, in some states (including Pennsylvania) judges do not have an easy time reducing obviously excessive jury awards.
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 02:08:55 +0000 (UTC), snipped-for-privacy@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) Gave us:
Unusually hot coffee kept hot from a single element below burns within ten minutes of hitting the pot, and tastes for shit. The aroma would be likewise burnt smelling, old, evaporated coffee.
Their coffee and their machines are the same as it ever was.
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