Re: Looking for a UPS Design That Doesn't Overheat Batteries


I'll never buy an APC UPS unit again... I'm looking at the Liebrert units to replace the APC units that we have had gone totally belly up. I've found that most of the problems are from lack of maintenance. The people that installed these units probably never figured that the batteries are only good for 3 years. I'm getting a couple Lieberts in, going to get replacement batteries for all the APC's and use what modules that aren't defective out of the APC's to keep the others going. I picked up new batteries for an APC, installed them during the day, the next morning I just so happened to stop by the closet, could of fried eggs on the top of the APC unit.... I think that rack units are more important to the design of these units, sad, no room for good air flow around them. There is a company, can't remember the name... they make UPS units that the batteries are external from the UPS. I think that would be the way to go. If you get any unit, just figure cost of new batteries every 3 years...

Take care,

Markus >Our company has had a long-standing problem where UPS batteries will at

various points in their lifetime suddenly overheat, sometimes >catastrophically to the point where the battery casing starts to melt and >you can actually smell the gases from the battery leaking. So far we have >been lucky to catch such thermal events with temperature sensors but it has >always been a goal of mine to better understand why this happens, and to >find some UPS system where it can be avoided entirely. To date, we have >seen these problems with APC Symmetra tower, Symmetra rackmount, and >SmartUPS. > >After working with an electrician, I have a theory about why this is >happening, and if correct, the theory suggests a different design for UPS >systems that would avoid the problem. I am hoping some manufacturer has >already implemented this idea and someone can refer me to their products. > >On all of the UPS systems we use generic "brick" batteries are joined >together in a series, then the leads from the ends of these battery chains >are connected to the UPS. The problem is that batteries rarely fail all >together. If a 12V battery should be considered discharged and not useful >at around 10V, and you have two 12V batteries joined in series, what happens >when one of the batteries maintains a full charge at 12V but the other >battery in the series starts to lose its ability to hold charge and slips >below some critical level? From the point of view of the UPS, it >doesn't see anything about the state of individual batteries. The UPS only >sees that the total voltage of the two 12V batteries in series has fallen >from 24V to 22V. > >Maybe an electrical engineer can step in here and explain what is happening, >but my pure guess is that to maintain the same power output, an increased >amount of current probably has to flow through the batteries. That >creates problems with heating for the "good" battery, which is still >measuring 12V. Now that 12V is receiving too much current, overcharges, >overheats, and at some point the casing of the battery starts to melt. I >haven't done enough experimentation to determine if it is the good battery >or bad battery that is overheating. To be honest, in such situations I >have often seen evidence that both batteries start to melt. Perhaps this >is nothing more than one battery being in physical proximity to the >overheating battery and therefore gaining heat from its physical contact. >The only thing that is common to all cases is that one of the two batteries >has discharged and should have been replaced before the overheating event >took place. > >Regardless of the actual mechanism for the overheating we are observing, it >seems to me that the obvious solution is to design UPS systems to physically >connect to each 12V battery individually. Forget connecting multiple >batteries in series, at least don't do that at the battery itself. By >connecting to and monitoring individual batteries, now the UPS can see when >an individual battery falls below some critical voltage threshold and put it >into a special recharge state (not put any load on it). If the battery >fails to recharge, the UPS can declare the battery defective and can signal >the condition by an LED on the battery's compartment. If there is a >network attached monitoring system, the UPS can send an e-mail. > >Aside from increasing safety and utility of the monitoring system, such a >design would allow much easier re-use of off-the-shelf batteries, improving >ease-of-use in making battery changes and lowering cost. While I realize >that APC in particular has no desire to make anything regarding batteries >non proprietary, maybe some other vendor has a UPS design that puts a direct >monitoring circuit on each individual 12V brick battery, thus avoiding the >overheating problem I have described? > >Any information on why this overheating takes place, how to avoid it, and >any referrals to third party UPS products that employ a more robust design >are appreciated.
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