What is a "mainframe" oscilloscope or logic analyzer?

Jul 08, 2006 2 Replies

All,



I've seen several oscilloscopes and logic analyzers advertized as "mainframes". I understand that these devices need specialized plug-in cards to operate, but is there anything else I need to know about them? Are they typically configured through the front panel, just like their "stand alone" cousins?


-Chess



snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

Yes,lots. ;-)

A mainframe oscilloscope(MF) has the power supply,HV,display and CRT driver amplifiers.Some may be CRT-storage displays that retain the waveform for closer examination.(after the event's passed or you remove the probe.) The plug-ins(PIs) contain the vertical amplifiers,attenuators,others have the timebase or horizontal amplifiers. Then there are specialized PIs like the TEK 7CT1N curve tracer,spectrum analyzer PIs that take up more than one compartment(slot),sampling PIs that extend the bandwidth far above the real-time BW,digital PIs that can make the MF a digital storage scope,or a logic analyzer,or a word recognizer/signature analyzer. There are differential vertical amp PIs(7A13,7A22),FET probe PIs,50 ohm input PIs,75ohm input PIs for cable uses) Different PIs have differing BW,also dependent on MF bandwidth.Some instruments may have on screen readouts of parameters.

This wide selection makes the mainframe a versatile test instrument. (too bad TEK doesn't make them anymore)

The MF has the basic display controls,and the PIs have the vert and horiz position,gain(volts/div),sweep speed(time/div),or other specific controls on their front panels. The TEK 11000(11K) series is fully programmable thru a GPIB interface. (only using 11K PIs.)

The later TEK 7000 series mainframes are very good serviceable instruments.

7904,7904A,7104,7704A,7603 are all excellent MFs.

AVOID 7400,7500 series MFs,and IMO,avoid storage MFs.

An important caveat is that TEK-made ICs are no longer being made,stocked,or sold new. Strictly salvage from "parts scopes". TEK-made ICs have the prefix 155-xxxx-xx or 234-xxxx-xx.

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

Jim,

I really appreciate you taking the time to explain these devices and share your perspective on them. Sounds like the mainframe concept is a good one. I didn't realize that Tek had discontinued making mainframe oscilloscopes. They do appear to still make mainframe logic analyzers... at least, I've seen quite a few modern Tek MF Logic Analyzers on Ebay recently.

Thanks again for your help.

-Chess

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