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Re: Alternatives to Visual Sourcesafe?

Toby,

I'm not going to participate in any 'flame-war' - but the following statement is unwarranted:

To choose CVS over Subversion at this point in time could only be put > down to inadequate research.

I have limited experience at this point with Subversion - it has not impressed me thus far. In fact, I would say that subversion exists for those that can't set up CVS. Subversion to me appears to be a light-weight version of CVS.

I really wonder if Subversion is set up for people to concurrently edit the same file on the Internet, and then do commits - as CVS is. I really don't think so from what I've seen.

It's all a matter of preference. If you want to use something that been tried and works - is not as heavy handed as ClearCase - or like we used to call it - ClearThing - then CVS is a good choice. If having a project on the Internet is important - and you want a decent client and a bullet-proof server - CVS is the hands-down battle proven choice. I have yet to hear this about Subversion.

Like I said in my first response - I had virutally every dept. in the company that wanted access to my server - reason? It was up 24/7 and it was 100% reliable - I don't know if you can make that claim about Subversion - but maybe that isn't important to you. When you list pros/cons - this should be included. CVS comes standard with RH Linux, etc. Also, like I said before - I've run a CVS server on a laptop - in fact - it is running right now on the laptop I'm using to type this message - so I don't know how that gets any easier.

Regards, John W.

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Definitely. The teams I work with do this constantly -- Subversion supports it explicitly. This is why projects such as Apache, KDE, and gcc use it: see user list at bottom of

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have yet to hear

This can't be described as an issue of preference until you've had experience with both. I've used both. CVS feels terribly clunky to me after working with Subversion. I would refer you to those specific omissions/problems I cited earlier. And there's really no way to fake them.

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I certainly can, with multi-gigabyte repositories. And so can all the other major projects using it :-) It's a mature product.

OK: Pro - it's rock solid.

Pro: Subversion is also packaged with all distributions.

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The main difference between us, is I've worked heavily with Subversion both as a user and an administrator. No flame war - I'm only conveying the fruits of direct experience.

You like CVS; well, if Subversion did not exist, I'd probably be using it too, for all the reasons you cite. But as of today, I cannot find one Pro for CVS, only the same passel of annoying/inconvenient/dangerous Cons that led Subversion to be created in the first place.

--Toby

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toby

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CVS.

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tried and works -

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want a decent client

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that wanted access

know if you can make

Sourceforge has been gradually moving over to Subversion. While I doubt if many of its projects are multi-gigabyte, the manage over 100,000 different projects. I doubt if they would even have looked at svn if it were not mature and battle-proven.

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David Brown

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