OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot

That's nothing. My computer screen, and all the programs I run, are covered with little picture buttons. You don't have to be literate to operate a word processor program!

John

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John Larkin
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You mean a woman low on estrogen and high on testosterone.

Sounds like your problems are more serious than you think; looking women over with a microscope at your age is indicative of arrested development.

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Fred Bloggs

The WSJ is a neo-con controlled publication-- like the Telegraph in the UK, only much worse.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

Jerry Avins' tag line reads "Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. "

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Richard Owlett

More's the pity. Remember when "Desktop Publishing" was introduced? It took a while for all the templates and so on to be introduced so that people were not shooting themselves in the foot with the new tools.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

Hello David,

'tis how it's done.

One engineer on another newsgroup has a tag line that sums it up better. Something like "Engineering is the art of making things you want from parts you can get".

Regards, Joerg

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informed

Did we read the same article? Or is it that leftists can't stand reading about themselves ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Yeah. I couldn't find one who looked like a boy so I had to settle for Fiona:-)

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Best of luck for the OP who seems a bit... er...

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Dirk Bruere at Neopax

Whew- now that's what women are supposed to look like-

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Fred Bloggs

Hello Richard,

MEs did enjoy a more practical background. I have a 1929 ME handbook from my late father in law. It contains chapters that describe how to set up cigarette manufacturing lines and breweries ;-)

Another book that I saw at a friend's house described radio frequencies as a "wondrous ether whose practical usage has yet to be determined". That was from the pre-cell phone days.

Regards, Joerg

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Joerg

Fiona:-)

I think one of them looks like a man.

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Richard Henry

I'm the one without the beard:-)

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Dirk Bruere at Neopax

Yes- you guessed rightly- it is a picture of a man and woman. The woman is to the right-

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Fred Bloggs

Hello Phil,

Inflation adjusted, not lately (last couple years or so). We will have to accept at some point that there will be some evening out in the standard of living between the US and Asia.

There are some folks who sold at the peak a half year ago and are now waiting in a rental for the bubble to deflate.

Regards, Joerg

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Joerg

The social support model is entirely sustainable - most of the major European countries are running budget deficits of around 3% or less (half of the current U.S. level) - and what we lose on feeding our kids properly, we recover on reduced expenditures on imprisoning uneducated and in-educatable adults.

I don't know where you got your productivity figures. Go read Will Hutton's "The World We're In" ISBN: 0316860816 for a bunch of productivity figures that you won't like (and pleae do go back to his original sources - he cites them - before you complain).

The declining native population maybe a problem if the trend continues for a few generations - but even then, evolution would sort it out.

The immigrant population isn't illiterate. Their kids all go through the same education system as everybody else, and do almost as well as the natives, and many of the adults learn the local language (as I did in the Netherlands - it is no big deal). Europe does at least as well at absorbing immigrants as the U.S.A and Australia.

Us.

Lots of immigrant scholars. The social conditions you encourage to simplify the extraction of oil do make emmigration an attractive option for anybody who can practice their profession in another country.

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bill.sloman

Dear me. You have yet to prove that Europe is declining.

If it were you'd have to prove that the decline was due to the failure of the native Europeans to reproduce at the replacement rate - most of us happen to think that the current population density would be unsustainably high if we weren't importing lots of stuff, so we aren't too worried about the prospect of a declining population twenty-odd years from now.

And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does appreciably better.

Persistent juvenile malnutrition isn't good for intellectual development, and we do seem to see a lot of evidence of this on this user group.

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bill.sloman

Besides myself, three of the companies I've purchased pick and place machines from, and one of the two reflow ovens I've purchased. All have there businesses established in, or just outside of, small farming towns in Texas, Ohio, Indiana, and Missouri. The texas company was the largest, probably the largest employer in the town with about 200 employees, in three renovated aggricultural wharehouses buildings totalling well over

100,000sqft. Full pcb line, a building full of plastic injection machines, and high tech clean room assembling high precision instruments and some military electronics. The Ohio and Indiana shops where similar, just smaller. The missouri shop was also pretty good sized, probably 100 plus heads.

Many grew up in the area, went off to college, came back home and joined these established businesses and where also working the farm too. When I worked for Symbios In Kanasas, there were a number of staff that would leave for a couple days when it was time to harvest the milo or wheat, or it had just rained and they need to a couple days to get the tractor and grain drill in the field to plant seed. Then they would be back at work. Good engineers, not chasing high dollar city paychecks.

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fpga_toys

A similar saying I have heard:

In theory, theory and reality are the same, but in reality, they're different.

--Mac

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Mac

Many are using their one time exemption to flee, where the equity will purchase a home and business free and clear before the bubble bursts. Often this is retirement driven, as the taxes on the now million dollar family tract home are excessive. But increasingly I've seen engineers that have been consulting pickup their families and expand their business outside the tech hubs. Pheonix and Utah have seen a huge influx of people from Calif with a half million dollars cash in hand to buy high end properties, and it's created a huge bubble in those markets too. The Small Business grants/loans are now distributed by state as well, to foster distribution of high tech jobs into the non-coastal areas to move the jobs, offsetting unemployment costs, and other social services costs, into stale agricultural areas that have been declining for the last several decades.

The whole alternative energies program has similar provisions pushing targets to distribute the production of solar, wind and other production facilities away from existing costal centers and share the job/revenue benefits across the states instead of centralizing it again.

The government is much more likely to help you in the form of tax breaks, incentive programs, and access to contracts if you get outside the big cities. So for those that want to follow the american dream and become a small business owner designing, building or selling software or high tech products there is a good reason to consider taking your equity, buying a home and business free and clear, and following that dream nearly debt free, worry free, as compared to sitting on a million dollar mortgage that the banker takes most of your paycheck with.

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fpga_toys

Sorry to hear about your personal problems, Fred. Never mind, carpet slippers, cocoa and the crossword can be very satisfying in their way.

Paul Burke

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Paul Burke

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