Microchip's PIC32 : comments needed

I used to be a fan of MultiEdit for many years. But finally I came to the understanding that a reasonable IDE is the right way to do things.

There are two main arguments:

  1. It is so nice when you can get everything to work in 10 minutes without the need to read through the tons of documentation and reconfiguring everything everywhere.

  1. When everybody is forced to the same development environment, it simplifies the coordination.

Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant

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What has MultiEdit got to do with it? Although editor ability to deal with several files is handy, but every editor I use can handle that. Even such disgraceful things as Notepad. The important thing is using make, which reduces compilation to a single command at all times. It will also encourage good practices, in that foul practices can lead to long compilation and linking times.

Shift to the appropriate directory. Launch and use the editor. Write and save the makefile. Write the program. Save. ALT-TAB normally transfers you to the other window. Type 'make'. Run the result to evaluate. ALT-TAB and edit the appropriate file. Etc.

Note that the actual compiler (or assembler) and languages only affect the make file.

Use of VI(m) and/or Emacs can make editor use consistent across systems if you like, although I prefer other editors.

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CBFalconer

  • make + command line tools == IDE of your own. Why IDE of your own if there is an IDE already?

It is handy to create the shortcuts in the editor for the common operations like "make". But this is basically IDE make it yourself. Wouldn't it be easier to get used to the 'native' IDE?

So in the addition to the crazy enough syntax of make, you have to learn every detail about compiler, linker, etc.

Well. It has to do with how stiff you are in your habbits vs how lazy you are to learn anything new :)

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I have embraced Linux for a lot of good reasons. Well, it's a price that i pay from time to time :-( I have some long term plans to get out of this whole mess but there is no way to avoid all proprietary things, at least in the beginning.

I'm not a specialist, but I think that you have an interesting point here, that i will try to examine more closely.

Thank you for your opinion,

YG

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whygee

I can't seem to find the documents I downloaded last month but from what I can remember I decided it wasn't up to our requirements for an upcoming project. At this point the AVR32 family seems optimal for our uses.

Sorry I can't remember any details, I must be getting old :)

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certsoft

Isn't it easier to just hit a single button marked "build" ?

Cheers,

Al

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Al Borowski

It's certainly faster to hit

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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As long as this is all you have to do, yes. Then when things don't work as expected you will have to call the experts...

Like I suggested earlier, one does not need to bother with "programming" menus if one has an issue with typing a few keys.

One can just use the remote control of a plain TV set instead.

Using an editor in a few windows, a debugger in another, and the debugged application in yet another etc., while being blessed with the ability to write scripts and utilities as needed, (I refer to DPS, which is what I use, but this probably applies to unix users as well) - is a whole universe to which todays IDE users have no access. Or if they have access they have no knowledge and training to work with - which has the same effect, "call the expert", years of wrestling with something doable in a couple of months. I see plenty of such posts lately, BTW...

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Didi

If typing "make" is too much for you, then assign a key in your editor to run "make". In jed (an emacs clone), I usually configure F10 so that it runs "make" in a buffer and prepares to parse the output for error messages.

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Grant Edwards

Only if your finger happens to be on the mouse at the time. Which, considering you were supposedly just editing the source code, i.e. typing something a moment before, should be quite unlikely.

At all other times, a keyboard action ought to be faster than relocating one hand to the pointing device, finding that darn mouse pointer on the screen, locating it where it needs to be, and pressing a button.

Point-and-click user interfaces are efficient for newbies, or for rarely used tools. But in the long run, for tools you use all the time, particularly when you're doing text-heavy work like coding, you need an interface that lets you keep the fingers where they generally are, and offers as many different possible choices in the same instant as possible. Keyboard shortcuts do that, mouse menus don't.

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Hans-Bernhard Bröker

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