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Are you kidding? Yes, you must use flux. Are you using plumbers' solder or what? You should use fine, flux-cored 60/40 solder for electronics.

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Andrew Holme
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Richard,

If the solder already has flux in its core, you should not need to add any.

Are you keeping the soldering tip "tinned"? Keep an ordinary, wetted sponge handy, and wipe the tip on it periodically to keep it shiny. If it looks dark and dull, it won't make good solder joints.

Mark

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redbelly98

Not any more...

No, and yes, in that order. ;>)

Put the part you want to solder in place. Heat the _joint_, not the part or the PCB pad individually. Then apply the (flux-cored) solder so that the joint is wetted; if you get snot globs, you applied too much solder. And _don't move_ the part until the solder hardens.

Get some desoldering braid; it's basically pre-fluxed copper braid. You lay it on your snot globs, then heat it (on top, not the joint) with your iron. It sucks up the excess (you "lead" the solder up the braid). If you leave it in place too long, it sucks up too much solder (unless you're trying to remove the part, which is what the stuff is actually designed for). Takes a little practice to avoid soldering it down, too.

Pretty much any solderable part. Sounds like you're leaving the iron on the joints too long. All you want to do is fuse the solder into the joint between the part and the pad, not make everything red-hot.

Google for soldering +tutorial and pick one you find most readable.

Soldering is a skill pretty much anyone can learn, not a talent some fortunate few are born with. Making a bad joint takes just as long as making a good one, so you might as well learn to do it right.

Mark L. Fergerson

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Mark Fergerson

Hi, do your pcb's look like some one has sneezed solder all over it when your finished soldering it? Is this normal I do I just royaly suck at it? I seem to have lots of fun trying to get the solder to stick to the pcb, should I use flucks when soldering? Is there any help full information on soldering you have for a newbee?

Also is it possible to burn out PNP and NPN transistors?

Thanks For Ya Time.

And I thought making the pcb would be the hard bit.

Reply to
Richard Harris

Try: FAQ about Hand Soldering

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FAQ about Flux
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FAQ about Solder Alloys
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Kester Solder Alloy temperatures (great chart for the workbench)
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Reflow temperature profile of 63/37
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search in:

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Google for weller +"better soldering" Google for "Apogee Kits Free guide to electronics soldering" Google for "soldering for hams" The last three were very helpful (as well as the Keester FAQs)

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Trobador

seem

Clean the pad and component lead with an eraser until they are bright and shiny. Don't touch the pad or component lead with your fingers. Place the component in position. Lay your resin cored solder across the pad and against the component lead just enough to cover the pad width. Wipe the hot (320°C) iron tip on a damp sponge (the tip must be clean). Apply the iron tip to the solder, pad and lead all at the same time. The solder will melt and flow to cover the pad and climb the lead in 1 or 2 seconds max. Immediately remove the iron and solder wire. You will have the perfect joint. Use a chisel/vee shaped tip and select the gauge of solder to suit the pad size, 1-2mm maybe. The solder should cover the pad and curve upwards to the lead wetting both evenly. Think water meniscus (sp) If you have a mercury meniscus (round blob) the job is not clean enough/too much solder.

HTH

Gordon

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Gordon W

Thanks for posting a bunch of dead links.

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JeffM

I have some tips on making PC boards at

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One thing that I always do is to tin the entire board before trying to install any components. I have tried those "electroless tin plating solutions" and found they make a dull coat, not bright and shiny like you need for soldering. So I do it the hard way, which isn't really all that hard at all for the typical small board: Get some liquid resin flux. Polish the etched board with steel wool to remove whatever resist you used (I use felt-tip pens), then paint it with a thin coat of flux. Then use the side of the soldering iron tip with normal resin-core solder and "paint" the traces. You can spread the solder out amazingly thin this way, after a little practice, and it goes pretty quickly. Watch you don't cover over any holes.

I use rubbing alcohol and an old toothbrush to remove the flux. When dried the board looks like it's been chromed. Not only is soldering a breeze, but the tinned surface is resistant to corrosion without the need for spray coatings.

Best regards,

Bob Masta dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis

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Bob Masta

*chuckling out loud*

I hadn't soldered since school when my PIC Programmer *Kit* arrived a few weeks back... I went out and bought a soldering iron (cheapest I could find!) and prepared myself to ruin it. Suprisingly, everything worked when I plugged it in, and looking at it, it (unbelievably!) looks pretty neat... It seems the solder sticks to the rings around each hole on the board, and doesn't stick to "the green stuff"... Are you sure it's a PCB you're soldering? ;)

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Danny
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Danny T

Hard to control. You can buy specialized pcbs called 'surfboards' that help with SMT breadboarding. They aren't cheap, but for a hobbyist, it may be the way to go for those parts that can't be had in DIP.

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   Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
     - Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
        on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
Reply to
Robert Monsen

Thanks for all your info.

I tried using the method stated, putingt the iron onto the component lead and then touching it with solder for 1 second and my soldering improved by about 900%. It now looks great just like the professional manufactured board. And now my components do give of smoke. Thanks, you guys are great. Hehe, learn to solder in 15 seconds.

seem

Reply to
Richard Harris

I hope you mean "don't"!

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Danny
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Danny T

Made a typo "Don't give of smoke now". Sorry

Question : How do surfice mount IC's that have realy fine leads get soldered. Is there some kind of special tool that does it or is there simply a trick to doing them?

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Richard Harris

This any good?

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Danny
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Danny T

Then why bother to post links at all? I can read the Subject line. I can use Google on my own.

This is exactly why the Submit button on Slashdot has a label beside it that says *Check those URLs!*

I hope this isn't the level of work you present to your boss then say. "use your imagination".

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JeffM

Most parts are still available in through-hole form factors. Some of the more recent goodies (e.g., some microcontrollers, CPLDs, FPGAs) are not but there are breakout boards. Some examples at

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For soldering large'ish surface mount parts, I've had the best results with a "wipe and wick" method. Use a small (but "normal") wedge-shaped tip and tack down two opposing corners. Solder bridges are OK at this point; what you want to do is ensure the part's leads are centered over the pads. Then "wipe" all of the leads on one side with a more or less continuous solder bridge. Allow to cool and repeat for the other sides. Allow to cool again and then go around the leads using solder wick to soak up the excess solder. If you don't put down too much solder to begin with, don't try to wick up every last bit (just enough to clear the bridges), and inspect it afterwards with a lens, then you can get "good enough" results pretty quickly. Not suitable for production work, clearly, but OK for the occasional home project.

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Rich Webb   Norfolk, VA
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Rich Webb

with little effort:

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poptronics is definetely dead. Sory for that one.

first Google hit for weller +"better soldering" =

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Results 1 - 10 of about 86 for weller +"better soldering". (0.41 seconds)

Google for "Apogee Kits Free guide to electronics soldering" first link:

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Google for "soldering for hams" was not good, but Google for "soldering

+hams" came out with a bunch, too many to list.

YOU are allowed to use your imagination and common sense when researching a subject. Was I suposed to spoon feed?

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Trobador

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