Seeking Dual Car Battery Installation Advice--Part II (Power Pack Approach)

I'm restarting this thread with the addition of Part II in the Subject. My comments relevant to Part II are below. I added them to the the old thread, but they have gone unnoticed. If there any comments about the 600W Xantera or other choices, I'd like to hear about them; otherwise, I'll be purchasing it very soon.

--------------------New Comments at the Bottom of Old Thread-------------- Hi, I left for my 3 week vacation on the 9th, my last post. I was unable to really start installing it, so figured I'd do it on my trip. Fortunately, I found a much better solution on my way before I tinkered with anything. It's called a power pack.

When I happened into the Tower campground in Yellowstone, I asked the campground host if he had any electric outlets I could borrow. One thing led to another, and he offered me the use of his Xantera 600W PP. It worked fine in that it powered my CPAP unit for 8 hours. One can recharge it by plugging it into the car's 12v outlet.

Although I don't need it, it has a radio. alarm, and a light. Allows for 3 AC devices. I used it for 3 nights. I think Xantrex makes an ever higher wattage one. Amazon has it for a lower price, much lower depending upon how shipping figures into it. The campground host told me there might be a bigger (wattage) model.

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The Xantrex 600 has a smaller battery which means that it won't last long if you power more than one low/medium power device. You would therefore have to recharge it more frequently. Unless you have a high Ah capacity vehicle battery I would hesitate to charge it from the vehicle except in a dire emergency. If it suits your purposes then go ahead and buy it.

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It doesn't have the gimmicky extra "fruit" of the 600 and it is trolley mounted so you don't have to lift it to move it around. The battery is a 60Ah unit so they appear to have put the value into making it more reliable rather than the gimicks. Northern sell it for $330 compared to Amazon's $745 (what a rip-off)

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At $330 from Northern it would be my choice.

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Thanks. I agree with your "fruit" comment. Trolley mounted is good, but for my app, I think I can lift it around. Basically, I need it for my CPAP device when I'm car camping. The plan is to just put in the back of my van or Subaru SUV. I can recharge it from the 12v outlet during the day while I'm driving.

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If you are planning to use a dual battery approach on your Subaru SUV, there may be sufficient room under the engine bonnet to mount a second battery - this is the usual method adopted by off-roaders. Both batteries would preferably be of similar Ah capacity. You would need a battery isolation device which controls the charging of both the main and auxiliary batteries and prevents over discharge of your main battery. These days, most people use "smart" battery isolators which do not employ mechanical switches or solenoids.

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The company is Xantrex, and the link I gave to the X1500 is the Xantrex website page for portable power devices they manufacture. As you will see on the page they make only 4 devices and of these I doubt the 300EP would be suitable, the 600 you already know about, the X1500 I recommended, and the more specialised sound unit which again is not recommended.

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I don't know the battery type in the 600 but being a portable unit I would think it would be a maintenance free battery which is not likely to emit gas provided it is charged with an approved charging unit. Why not ask Xantrex for their opinion?

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That is a gel cell type of battery, and unless you charge it at a lot higher than recommended current, it will not release any Hydrogen or Oxygen gas.

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