Automatic Control of PRESSURE & TIME of gas flow from H tank cylinders

Jan 10, 2005 3 Replies

I have a gas cylinder - H Tank (that can hold oxygen, helium, etc... at



50 psi pressure) that is used for clinical simulation. It has its own valve that can be switched on / off manually.


1) My requirement is to automate this valve by having a controller to control the flow of gas in terms of both PRESUURE and TIME based on the user inputs.


2) Provide a set of knobs / digital input switches each for TIME period of gas flow - 2 seconds, 5 seconds, and 10 seconds. (If I choose 10 seconds TIME, the valve opens for 10 seconds, sends the gas and automatically shuts after 10 seconds)


3) Provide another set of knobs /
digital input switches for the LAG period of gas flow - 10 seconds, 15 seconds, 25 seconds. (If I choose 15 seconds input, then the valve has to be in the closed mode for 15 seconds after which it automatically opens for TIME input that I have chosen in step 2)


4) Provide another set of knobs / digital input switches for the PRESSURE of gas flow - 25 psi, 35 psi, 50 seconds. (If I chose 25 psi, then the pressure of the gas coming out of the cylinder should be 25 psi)


5) My final extension is to control the same knobs /
inputs remotely from my computer through a user interface



(Example, If I chose TIME = 5seconds, LAG = 10 seconds, PRESSURE = 25 psi, the gas flows out of the cylinder at a pressure of 25 psi for a 5 seconds period after a periodic 10 seconds break meaning 5sec ON, 10 sec OFF, 5 sec ON, 10 sec OFF, etc...)



Is there a readymade product that can handle this and what are the specifications*** that I should look for when I buy such a product ?



How do I approach if I would like to assemble my own system to handle my requirement and what would be the design ?



In order to handle from the computer remotely, I can connect using a serial / USB port, is there a free downloadable software that can convert the serial / usb signals to handle such requirements based on the circuit ?



I assume that I can have a timer and a pressure sensor to do this that again converts to mechanical energy in order to stop / open the valve and regulate the pressure. At the same time, I can also have some readymade PCBs that understand the serial /



usb signals that I send from my computer to do the job, but I need a very clear cut design with specifications and implementation procedure in order to execute this. What are the basic technical specifications that I have to look for in this new system ? I am basically looking for an economic solution that can be implemented in my lab for experiments.



Any pointers to this would be of greatest help. Thanks in advance!!! SARITA


The *clinical* part bothers me. Do you mean that you will be using it on humans? I suggest hiring a Biomedical Engineer.

I have a story about a young, eager physician doing a pulmonary experiment using a helium mixture on a Saturday with no one else around. He survived, but it could have gone very badly.

A little light reading about Pneumatic Solenoid Valves:

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I also suggest that you remove the @Yahoo.com from your user name. The Google arcive now mungs all email addresses (especially when you post there) so that they look like this: snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com. (I had to make an effort to un-mung it.)

Perhaps they a company like this... They have equipment for mixing/controlling gasses...

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I also have a story like that, only my boss wanted to use hydrogen and oxygen premixed in a stochiometric mixture. (This was for auditory research on Guinea pigs.) Luckily for us all, he wasn't able to find a supplier and asked me to help. It took some doing, but I finally convinced him that this was a REALLY bad idea, even if he found some fool to mix it for him. From what I was able to find out at the time, there were no valves available that could respond fast enough to prevent a flame front from travelling back into the tank and turning it into a scale model Saturn V rocket.

Bob Masta dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis

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