Antenna question

Jan 21, 2011 49 Replies

decibels are (very nearly) always power.

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Again, wrong. Decibels are useful in all sorts of contexts, which is confusing at times.

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I've never used the dBV is that the log of a voltage ratio?

George H.

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Yes, it's 20log(V/1V). The point being that decibels are *not* only a measure of power (ratio). "dB" is unitless.

Just to clarify: dB is relative _power_ measurement (10logP1/P2). The dB scale can also be use for absolute measurements if you agree on P2. For instance, if P2=1mW, you get dBm=10logP1/1mW. If power is delivered to the same impedances, then dB may relate voltages by dB=20logV1/V2. An absolute voltage measurement is possible if you specify V2, for instance if V2=1uV, you get dBuV. So, dBV is 20logV1/1V, i.e. an absolute measure.

So, on the same impedance, voltage x2 means power x4 .

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OK, I don't want to get all 'cranky' about it. But you can move the 2 inside the log and write it as,

10log(V^2/1V^2), and that looks a bit like a power. That dBV's are independent of the impedance is kinda weird.

George H.

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.... Phil

What you say is true but dB is also used for strictly voltage specifications (either relative or absolute, referenced to an agreed V2) without regard to impedances.

Phil Allison:

If you really have to use OutOfLuck, why don't you install Quotefix?

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