tacky signal detector

May 17, 2019 2 Replies

We'd like to light up an LED when the customer gives us an input, nominally 1 volt peak at 10 MHz, but could be less.



This detector might work. It depends on schottky diode leakage to discharge the cap. It will drive an opamp, or a comparator, with pA bias current. We'd threshold that at 20 mV or some such to turn on the LED.


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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

OK as long the source has a DC return path and no DC offset voltage.

Simplicity is disguised by the 20-50 transistors doing all the legwork inside the comparator chip :)

For maximum sleaze get rid of the capacitor and rely on chip input capacitance!

piglet

It's a MiniCircuits RF transformer. DC offset is small.

Or opamp. Opamps make good comparators for slow signals.

I was thinking of having the diode drive the summing point of the opamp, to keep zero volts across the diode at all times. Gotta try that. The trick there is to not load the source much at high signal level.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics

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