Standard non-inverting opamp with a cap across + and - terminals...... Why?

Apr 08, 2009 177 Replies

neural

be found within you,

anyone.

In other words, he is full of s*it?

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On a sunny day (Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:58:55 -0400) it happened Jamie wrote in :

be found within you,

anyone.

No, it is called 'ignorance'. That is why it is so difficult to change :-) I prefer: 'There, but for fortune, go you and I.'

Maybe the future, or the path we will eventually take, in our lives, is already set. My personal view is a deterministic universe (wheter QM denies it or not :-) )

I got what I always wanted, from being a few years old, I can say that now at a high age. But what do people want? And why? All the stars and planets and stuff in the universe is subject to all those forces (the ones we know and the ones we do not know about), and move accordingly. We, like little ants are sitting on a piece of it (earth), and think we 'decide', while recent experiments have clearly demonstrated the the decisions we think we make come from deep in the subconscious and are set by internal and external factors.. and as such in a way predictable, we are subjected to all those forces in the universe, and are a playing ball of those. The one goes one way, the other the other, hence 'There but for fortune'. Dice? hehe. Yes I am grateful I was the one who found what I wanted, was it my destiny? I was predicted to me once, and at that time I was into other things very much... So can you ever say, about anyone 'full of s*it'? Can you say that mars is in a wrong orbit and earth in the right one? Sure, some people are wrong more often then others, but can you see their path. there 'heading'? Maybe my definition of 's*it' is quite different then yours? Wrong and right, as we _experience_ it, is not the same as scientifically wrong or right, as is 1=2 is wrong, and 1=1 is right, wrong and right in our feeling is something completely different, where saying 1=2 can feel right and there is the sense, the 'zen' of it, it is in the feeling, in the human heart, where it counts for us.

neural

be found within you,

anyone.

From G. K. Chesterton:

Of all horrible religions the most horrible is the worship of the god within. Any one who knows any body knows how it would work; any one who knows any one from the Higher Thought Centre knows how it does work. That Jones shall worship the god within him turns out ultimately to mean that Jones shall worship Jones. Let Jones worship the sun or moon, anything rather than the Inner Light; let Jones worship cats or crocodiles, if he can find any in his street, but not the god within. Christianity came into the world firstly in order to assert with violence that a man had not only to look inwards, but to look outwards, to behold with astonishment and enthusiasm a divine company and a divine captain. The only fun of being a Christian was that a man was not left alone with the Inner Light, but definitely recognized an outer light, fair as the sun, clear as the moon, terrible as an army with banners.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net

May,

Depends on what kind of beer is in the keg you bring :-)

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.

On a sunny day (Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:15:10 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs wrote in :

It seems sometimes to me that anybody jiggling with the Dr fetish is an idiot. An other book quoter.

The disadvantage of books, and why they are like a brake on science, is that they are frozen, and freeze any scientific understanding at the moment they are printed in millions, and their at that moment having become old ideas, are infecting and poisoning the minds of millions if not billions. That is the cool thing about wikipedia: It is usually up to date. Sometimes within a day of things happening it is already updated.

Now once you actually understand anything about the subject within, feel free to come here and talk about your _own_ experiences. Else putting Dr in front of your name sort of degrades Dr even more. My view. Free. Brought to you by the latest high tech. LOL

It is not mere theory. The fact that you don't seem to know this brings into question all of your earlier statements on this subject.

The LT1028 is a very good example of one where the bias current changes when there is EMI on the input out side the gain bandwidth of the device.

You claim to be educating others but it appears that you have a serious hole in your knowledge.

Phil's okay, he's just job-hunting. He has to tout his credentials. Nothing wrong with that, eh?

Cheers, James Arthur

As opposed to making stuff up and foisting it on the rest of us as the wisdom of the ages?

Give me good books any day.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

On a sunny day (Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:47:25 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs wrote in :

I did not make anything up, and it actually is the wisdom of ages, wasted on pigs it says in some book. I sort of guess it is also wasted on a Dr in optics who thinks CdS cells have hysteresis... but maybe I should read a book on CdS cells written by Dr Hobbs, and not use my own measurements. LOL

Drinking again?

Aha, that is better.

On a sunny day (Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:24:16 GMT) it happened James Arthur wrote in :

Was it not that Stones clip I did see, where the guy asked him for 'his credentials' and he showed his balls?

credentials' and

Easier to show than one's brains!! But no, sorry, I don't know the clip you write of.

I think you guys are talking about different things.

Organizing what's inside your head and jiving that with what's going on outside isn't the same as living inside it full-time and looking for all the answers there. The universe culls the latter people with buses!

Best, James Arthur

neural

be found within you,

anyone.

California is especially prone to inner-self fads. est was the grand-daddy: Yes, we both know that I'm standing on your face with my hobnail boots, but your happiness or unhappiness is entirely your own responsibility.

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Not personally, but some of my acquaintances are seen as experts in the area.

It doesn't seem to be an approach that lets you predict all that much about other people.

Sure. It does all kinds of good things for your physical and mental health, but it's not proved to be much good as way of developing predicitve insights into othe peoples thought processes.

One of the beneficial effects of meditation is the development of certain amout of over-confidence. It's good for your mental health - in the sense of avoiding dpression, but it can lead you make tolerably silly statements, like this one.

Not so far. The combination of brain imaging and disciplined behavioural psychology is a promising area of research, and research centres of various sorts are springing up all over the place, but the stuff being published at the moment isn't up to much.

Just as well.

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But I do understand what you wrote. I don't agree with any of it, but I do know about the side-effects of meditation.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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In the real world, what I've got is sophistication, and what Jan's got is self-delusion. I don't share his particular set of delusions, and to that extent I look "ignorant" to him, in the same way that I look "ignorant" to Jim Thompson, who has his own set of well-loved delusions.

Both of them could benefit by reading a little more widely.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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Today's science books do get most of the facts right. You do have to keep reading to more or less keep up with the developments around the edges, but when John Larkin was pushed to name a bunch of scientific fallacies, most of his examples came from around 1800.

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Rather restrictive.

The Ph.D. just says that you once did some origianl research in a particular area, and had the persistence to write it up. Anybody who reads more than that into the title is too easily impressed.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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on pigs it says in some book.

More accurately described as a persistent delusion. The human brain has this weakness for believing God or god's, probably for the same reason we like to believe in conspiracy theories - if people or things are conspiring against you, it pays to become aware of it as early as possible, so our minds are constructed to generate a lot of false positives, because this is the price you have to pay to minimise the number of false negatives.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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How much EMI?

You own claim to expertise fell down at the point where you failed to specify the voltage level of the electromagnetic interference appearing at the input of the LT1028 where you saw this effect.

About the time I replaced the OP-27's in the beam-steering signal chain for the Cambridge Instruments EBMF 10.5 elecron-beam micrfabricator (mask writer) with LT1028's, we up-graded the printed circuit boards from double-side to four layer, with buried ground and power planes; there used to be enough EMI from the digital logic on the adjacent boards that we had to put grounded aluminium screens between the boards, but with the four layer boards this was no longer necessary, so the amplitude of the interference does make a difference.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

It's the "except when they aren't" which is the kicker. If your current theory is inadequate, you won't know when you are stepping into "except when they aren't" territory.

The indications that you have lumbered yourself with an inadequate theory can be minor variations between what you see and and what you expected, which are easy to ignore as long as they are minor.

Nice for you. You have also got customers who will pay you to use them, which makes a difference.

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The financial aspects of the deal wouldn't make it all that attractive.

I was determined to get myself another job back in June 2003 but it didn't do me any good. Some people have been pretty happy with my work, but none of them live within a useful radius.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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It starts to happen at only a few millivolts. It increases much faster than linear from that point but at only a few millivolts (about

5mVp-p) it was enough to cause trouble.

Since it was will below the 26mV you use as a magic incantation, I figured I didn't need to give a number.

Yes it certainly does make a difference what the amplitude of the EMI is. It also matters how small the signal you are attempting to amplify is and what the resistor values in the circuit are.

I'm still figuring on Jim having another BBQ at his place some day (as I recall the problem with the first one was that only Spehro was the only guest!)... and of the ever-dwindling-Usenet-readers remaining, it seems that more of them on the west coast rather than east. Phoenix in winter is great, and there's plenty to do within a day's drive...

Oh, and of course we know Jim has good taste in adult beverages...

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