yeh, any kid can get pro level tools for free and for just a few dollars get multi layer PCBs professionally made and assembled in a week
it's not that many years since that would be prohibitively expensive unless it was going to make you money
yeh, any kid can get pro level tools for free and for just a few dollars get multi layer PCBs professionally made and assembled in a week
it's not that many years since that would be prohibitively expensive unless it was going to make you money
And yet some still insist on spending more money for not more functionality.
Except for hobbyists, the software has always been cheap compared to the cost of people.
So it hasn’t been keeping up with SolidWorks? Not really a good substitute, then.
Make that “most *proprietary* software”.
Does it have fly-through/walk-through modes?
That’s not a big deal any more.
Seems like it’s still around, but it’s gone cloud-only.
Apparently KiCAD got some investment money from CERN.
Sure it keeps up. But you have to update it to import a file created with a recent version of SolidWorks.
It always works with Step files.
Not for us. We purchased six copies outright.
Being old and cantankerous that is exactly how I do my simple PCBs to this day, except that I use Corel draw and layers.
I spent a week trying to get a PCB cad program to work, gave up and did the PCB in a day.
There is an online website that will convert Corel drawings to the correct format for PCBs.
Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to obsolete, unsupported software?
Far more than I’d trust the ever changing buggy offerings of Adobe/Microsoft/etc . Banking finds COBOL works just fine. I know some major pharmaceutical plants still run critical processes on HP1000-21MX minicomputers from the 1970s!
We are not having problems with PADS.
Well, except that it runs under Windows.
I can open old schematics and PCBs that were created under DOS, literally decades ago, and print, edit, ECO, revise, save. That is impressive.
It works fine. Makes lots of beautiful boards. Some recent ones:
A lot of companies do, for one reason or another.
I inherited a hammer from my grandfather. It pounds nails just fine.
"When the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to think of everything else as a nail."
You expected that one, I suppose.
Jeroen Belleman
I use 20 year old CAD software. IN a walled garden
It would have helped to have someone walk you through it.
I was just a kid running DOS when I learned to use PADS. Now, older and crankier, I still use PADS. And it will open all the old files.
What's weird is that we did dumb single and double sided boards back then, with leaded resistors and TO92 transistors and DIP14 ICs. Now we're doing 8 and 10 layer boards with 500-ball 0.8 mm pitch BGAs, multiple pour layers, 0306 caps, coplanar waveguides, thousands of stitching vias. But the old PADS would have done all that just fine. PCBs really haven't changed. Just the video resolution is better now.
And the PCB houses will still make boards from the same Gerber files.
The advantage of a PCB program, over a drawing program, is that you can draw a schematic and import it into a PCB and check it and stuff. And you can have a library of parts, each with a schematic symbol and a multilayer PCB decal.
Some of our boards have a thousand parts.
Opposite of you, I use PADS as a drawing program. And in ECO mode, I can just draw a PCB without a netlist or anything.
Gosh, did you invent that phrase?
With schematic and PCB software working together, it'll also help you make sure that all of the connections described in the schematic are in the PCB. A drawing program won't do that for you, which opens up a vector for missing connections that lead to bad boards. That this kind of capability is available to hobbyist "weekend warriors" like me is nothing short of amazing.
Here's my latest project, a recreation of some old hardware from just a scanned PDF:
Sure, it works fine ... until the day it doesn’t.
And then, in the words of the song, who’re ya gonna call?
Sure, it works fine ... until the day it doesn’t.
And then, in the words of the song, who’re ya gonna call?
Hammer-and-nail technology hasn’t changed appreciably in, since before your grandfather was born.
Electronics is a slightly different matter.
Do you consider your software tools to be a strategic asset, or just an unavoidable expense?
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