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In other news, a few months ago my microwave oven keypad broke; the first two rows of numbers quit working, 012 and 345. That made things tricky. Had to cook things for 6:66 minutes and seconds. Setting time was hard. I assumed that some trace had broken in the membrane thing.

So last night we had a brief power failure, and now it all works! I don't understand how that's possible.

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Are you joking? A friend had an older console TV with a digital readout of the channel. Did I mention it had a picture tube? So the digital channel indicator was separate from the screen. One time it stopped working right . I think it was not displaying numbers at all or something similarly goof y. He thought it was time to tear it apart. I told him to unplug it for a few seconds and then it worked. The tiny MCU needed a good reset. The MC U probably is never turned off since it is likely involved in the remote co ntrol circuit too.

It may have been a short power glitch that knocked it silly in the first pl ace. His and yours.

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Rick C

Software written by EEs

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bitrex

Most microwaves manufactured in the past 20 years that cost over $150 have a +30 sec button

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bitrex

Should I ask if you power cycled (unplugged) the microwave after the problem appeared?

John ;-#)#

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John Robertson

One of the rear passenger doors on my car stopped locking about a year ago and the key fob remote stopped working. No biggie, only an old car anyway in which I might do 1500 miles per year tops.

Last week the door lock started working again, still no key fob remote, but now all the warning messages on the dashboard display are in German. It's a French car too - must be something to do with Brexit but I haven't figured out what.

Cheers

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Clive Arthur

Mine doesn't have a computer, it has multiple computers. Sometimes I yearn for... I dunno a Lada maybe.

NT

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tabbypurr

the disease is quickly fixed by driving one ...

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

They drive pretty well

NT

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tabbypurr

How can one bit of code break, and be fixed by a reset?

I guess I just don't have the chops to be a programmer.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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John Larkin

No, that would be rude.

Why would anyone think to do that?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   precision measurement  

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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John Larkin

Mine has EASY COOK, which is +30 seconds, which works depending on what state it is in. It's complex.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
picosecond timing   precision measurement  

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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John Larkin

glitch, radiation, esd etc. gets is stuck somewhere it can't get out of and the 5 cent micro doesn't have a watchdog

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

It's not the code that "broke". The MCU got lost by a hardware glitch. The power supplies they use are not the best in the world and let various noise past.

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> I guess I just don't have the chops to be a programmer.
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Rick C

for (size_t i = 0; i < keypad_arr_.size(); ++i) { for (size_t j = 0; j < keypad_arr_[j].size(); ++j) { ^ ...

FUUUUUUUUUUUK!

that hopefully wouldn't make it out of production but it can ruin your day

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bitrex

Also ask Toyota they prolly know

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bitrex

Or a millennial. I'm sorry... make that "sketch" by a millennial, not software.

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mpm

No millennial would stoop to writing code for such lowly apparatus as _appliances_.

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bitrex

Hey boomers! While you're ranting about what the lousy kids are up to these days, there was a generation or two between the lousy boomers and the lousy kids these days.

Hey remember us? Anyone? Bueller? Buller....

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bitrex

Reports say their code was littered with thousands of static/global variables, creating almost an infinitely complex (but certainly un-analysable) state space.

The first thing I do before starting to look for bugs in a client's embedded device is make a comprehensive review of all global data. It's amazing how many potential bugs you can find just by looking at the linker map of global data.

Clifford Heath.

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Clifford Heath

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