Reference Books

Maybe look at the offerings from Newnes....

I don't buy books anymore.. I'm that good at electronics design :)

D from BC

I though they had your picture posted at the book store for excessive 'browsing'?

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If you have the (old) RCA CMOS data book, i would be extremely interested in obtaining it.

Just now getting up to speed on it? LOL

He said 10-20 years old, for that one you'd need 35-40 years old. Still, I wish I'd saved mine, it'd be fun to browse its pages again.

Are you talking about the old RCA CMOS logic book from 1971 or so? I have that and more. I bet you can find it on the used book market for $10.

Any chance I get to snag up books like that in thrift stores or hamfests/flea markets, I grab them. Old technology maybe - but there's always someone looking for information.

D from BC snipped-for-privacy@comic.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

If you are that good today, you will be buying books again in a few years and will never stop again.

Cool...Any longer and I might begin to get that old age senility.. :P

Senility: causes and symptoms

D from BC

I should still have the copy I bought in 1973.

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Actually, in certain applications, (to a certainextent), the slower the better (noise rejection for example).

Yes. Thanks; will try that.

Not for sale?

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Bought? Virtually all my old data books were hand delivered by obsequious salesmen.

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I was in Alaska at the time. Not a salesman in sight. A wholesale TV parts house got a couple copies in, with their SK cross-reference books. I had never worked with CMOS, so I gave them the $10 they wanted for it.

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Robert Baer hath wroth:

I think I smell money. I was going to recycle my pile of ancient data books. I didn't think anyone wanted those.

I have the CMOS Data book and Applications book along with some other RCA books. See:

for the 1972 versions and:

for the 1977 versions. I did most of my discrete design work in the

1970's and have quite a few other component catalogs and apps books from that era. Send me email along with an offer to subsidize my decadent and lavish lifestyle and they're yours.

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Spehro Pefhany hath wroth:

Yep. I never paid for a single data book in the 1970's. The covers usually had a price of some sort, but that's mostly for declaring its value during customs inspection.

When I asked for price, data, and delivery, I usually received a large box of data books (usually missing the data sheet I wanted). When I later asked about some other part, another box of data books would arrive. Every engineer and most managers in the company had data books. I also had a duplicate collection at home so I wouldn't have to drag any books back and forth (usually forgetting to bring them back). My guess is that at one point, I had perhaps 20 linear feet of semiconductor and IC data books. Many of them were duplicated later editions because these later printings would drastically reduce the amount of data on obsolete components, which I was still using. When I changed companies, I had to haul off roughly two heaping full size pickup truck loads of catalogs, data books, and pollution to the dump each time.[1]

I won't go into microfiche and film strip catalogs. It brings back fond nightmares of endless searches and unreadable paper printings. Such things are best forgotten lest they rise from the dead.

What was interesting is that I rarely used the actual data sheet. What I wanted were the applications circuits and test circuits that I could steal. Why waste energy designing something that can best be copied out of an applications manual? I soon discovered that such plagiarism had its limitations, but it kept me going for many years and rationalized my keeping the ancient books for so long. The manufacturers eventually figured out how it worked and published entire "steal this circuit" books.

Ah, nostalgia.

If you're going to collect data books, make sure the shelving can handle the weight:

This is the what happens when my do-it-thyself shelving collapses under the weight of a double row of books on the top shelf. It literally peeled the rails off the drywall. The books are not visible in the photo but landed to the left of the pile, around the corner. I removed the collapsed shelving for the photo.

[1] Incidentally, after the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989, much of the damage inside my house was due to the huge pile of magazines and data sheets I was storing vertically to the ceiling. The quake knocked over the pile, and I was walking on a foot thick layer of magazines and paper all over the house. I later discoverd that the weight of the magazine and paper pile had cracked the plywood sub-floor and was slowly ripping the floor away from the adjacent walls. After cleaning up the mess, I vowed not to collect that much paper again.

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