Recommendation for RF Prototype "Vector Board" with groundplane needed

Jul 11, 2008 34 Replies

Ferric chloride is a bitch to get out of t-shirts or fingernails.

John

Ask my wife about ferric chloride and kitchen ovens ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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How did the breadboards scale? Or was this just for conceptual ev?

My own films from that period look increasingly dicey - no doubt thanks to my own hit and miss developing methods.

It isn't too hard knocking out fresh gerbers, especially for prototype boards with no netlist; but I still tend to use simple counter-sinking to disconnect through-hole leads from a bulk ground or power plane, with at least one side carrying a useful foil pattern.

RL

I had integrated transistors, 4-5 per DIP, depending on type. Once the circuit was proven it was laid out as GDSII for masks.

I'll just use the existing films to create a new layout, then add surface mount patterns inside the DIL patterns, so I can handle whatever is available.

...Jim Thompson

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Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I *like* making my own boards. I've got a lab set up with everything ready to go, to reduce the overhead of making one board. I don't make *all* my boards, but being able to make a 2" square board and have it the same day sure is handy.

But if time is more valuable than money, having a vectorboard (or a prototype) made, especially if you need plated vias, is surely economical. Assuming you can wait 1-4 weeks for it to arrive, or can afford faster service.

You dare to put a smilie on that?

How about this one, copperclad and x-acto knives pushed to the limits of sanity:

ftp://66.117.156.8/BB_fast.JPG

John

_Now_ I do, but I'm banned from the kitchen ;-)

I've done that. I'd love to have one of those milling machines that automatically works from a layout.

...Jim Thompson

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I believe you're referring to the Wainwright Instruments "MiniMount" product line (sold as "Solder-Mount" in the U.S.).

According to one report I've read, this product was discontinued in

2006.
Dave Platt AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

I left sanity a while ago:

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(5/5 rules for three CSP packages, home-made)

Haven't tried populating it yet though. It's next on the list.

We had one of those for a couple of years. After some initial enthusiasm, we never used it. It was a real pain. It's a lot easier to order a plated-through, or even a multilayer board, and do something else until it arrives.

Oh, two tricks about x-acto copperclad protos:

  1. After you hack the board, scrub it good with a Scotchbrite pad. It takes off all the ridges and burrs beautifully. And solder loves a freshly Scotch-brited surface.
  2. Kapton tape is great. Stick some down, carve patterns, put parts right on top.

I still want to get a pcb house to gold plate a bunch of FR4 scraps for me.

John

Thanks Dave, that's what I meant. See this

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reference, bottom of page 3.

There is also a "Manhattan style" DIY version here

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using superglue to put small self-punched PCB discs into place. Looks very neat.

Arie de Muynck

That looks promising!

Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what\'s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P

That looks promising!

Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what\'s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P

Good articles. Thanks!

Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Treason doth never prosper: what\'s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." "Follow The Money" ;-P

You lay this artwork out and get PCBs in the mail, you get a few copies for srew ups or replicas, depends o the results :-) I do tis stuff all the time

Marc

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