Re: Solar panels

May 31, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 6 Replies


My understanding is that solar panels are typically series wired


> as many as 10 high -- 500VDC into inverter.

The maximum voltage is usually limited by inverters available and various electrical codes. As you say around 500V is common.


Note that the voltage increases as the temperature reduces so strong sunlight in the winter can give much higher voltages than on a hot summer day.


But, the individual wafers (on a panel) are probably wired in a
> series-parallel configuration with a nominal 48VDC output.

Not usually true - I don't know of any panels where there is a series-parallel configuration. As wafer sizes increase the panel current increases.


It is common for the panel to be divided electrically into three series sections with a reverse diode across each so that if one section is shaded or damaged the panel will still give output at reduced voltage and the MPPT controller will adapt.


To increase the ampacity from an array of such panels, I assume
> simply wiring in parallel would not be as effective as installing
> an MPPT controller on each and then combining to a 48VDC output?

Wiring panels in parallel would require heavier gauge wiring - it is usually more cost effective to go with a higher voltage.


I.e., absorbing the cost of the conversion inefficiency in return
> for being able to eek a bit of extra power out of an underperforming > panel?

Residential installations commonly use micro-inverters with one per panel. This minimizes issues with individual panels being shaded or being placed on different facets of a roof.


Having each panel dealt with separately also avoids a problem with having high voltages on the roof where it could endanger emergency personnel in the case of fire.


Electrical code in the US requires that where panels are placed on a residence that there be no more than 80V DC present when disabled.


Micro-inverters usually have a anti-islanding protection so that when the grid is not-present they stop producing leaving the roof safe.


In the case of DC systems this may require rapid-shutdown mid-circuit interrupters to meet these requirement.


Commercial solar farms don't have to meet these rules so they can go to higher voltages and avoid the expense of additional interrupters.



> And, that this would be preferable to stacking them and then
> down-regulating to 48VDC?
>

Why the conversion to 48V? Residential applications usually convert to direct to 240V AC.


Even batteries for residential are commonly AC-in/AC-out with their own bidirectional inverters. (eg Tesla Powerwall and Enphase)


kw


72 cells is a common PV module (panel) configuration.

So is 60 cells.

An MPPT charger is usually a buck converter so that's how it gets there. A nominal 48V PV array will need to have a higher Vmp than the battery voltage to charge that battery bank.

Sounds like Kevin knows his stuff regarding this and you aren't far off, if at all.

Rapid Shutdown requires the array at the string (HV) inverter or charge controller input to be at or below 30V in 30 seconds after its clear to go signal is removed. At least those who are being inspected to NEC.

boB

Are you sure that isn't the open-circuit voltage(Voc)?

For the couple of 72 cell panels I looked Voc is 49.0V +/-

The peak power voltage is about 41.0V.

Each cell has a peak voltage of ~0.7V and a peak power voltage of ~0.56V.

That voltage is not enough to charge a nominal 48V battery which probably needs up to ~54V.

Interestingly I did find out that the 400W Q-Cell panels are in fact 144 cell. They look they are configured as two 72 cell strings in parallel. There isn't any provision for reconfiguring as far as I could see.

Some inverter vendors (in particular SolarEdge) use optimizers with each panel - to perform part of the MPPT function. As far as I know they only work with the same vendor's inverter.

Or a Mid-Circuit Interrupter (MCI) as in the case of systems such as Tesla.

There are many "Solar Charge Controllers" on Amazon that could do the voltage conversion and MPPT to charge a 48V battery at up to 60A (~3kW).

They seem to want a string voltage of up to 100V or 150V which would equate to 2-3 panels in series. Provided all panels have the same aspect and sun exposure you could put strings in parallel to get the power level you need.

Not sure how to avoid excessive charge currents into the battery if it can't take the full solar output.

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kw

I don't think it is 48V nominal output - it is probably 48V open-circuit with a maximum power voltage of ~41V.

I don't think they do that - normally they use the substrate connection from the back as one of the terminals - putting multiple cells on a wafer would be more difficult requiring some form of device isolation as is used in integrated circuits. The metalization on the front forms the current collector for the front contact.

kw

The MPPT controller simply raises the PV operating voltage above Vmp... At Voc, the current becomes zero. Whatever Vpv gives the correct controller output voltage to the battery it is charging.

boB

That will happen automatically when the battery reaches the set voltage.

Some of the charge controllers allow configuration for various parameters such as 100% charge voltage so that it will work with different chemistries.

In your case your load could be directly across the battery.

The one thing that is not obvious to me is how to limit the charge current if you use a small battery where the solar available could exceed the allowable battery charging current.

Maybe you could add a controllable dump for when solar generation significantly exceeds your load consumption?

kw

I understand what you are wishing to do.

Just putting the load across the battery that is being fed from a MPPT charge controller may be all that you need.

By monitoring the state of charge you can then make decisions about how to control the load to make best use of the available energy.

The only thing that is unusual about your application is that the battery would be sized to be smaller than normal.

kw

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