Re: CERN and thw anti-matter bomb?

Mar 27, 2026 12 Replies

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Jeroen Belleman

I'm an occasional guide at the AD, taking people around the installations to show them what is going on. Yes, CERN is trucking antiprotons around, just testing the procedures for the moment. The reason is that some measurements that physicists want to perform are perturbed by…

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I'm an occasional guide at the AD, taking people around the installations to show them what is going on. Yes, CERN is trucking antiprotons around, just testing the procedures for the moment. The reason is that some measurements that physicists want to perform are perturbed by the multitude of stray magnetic fields in the AD experimental hall, so we need to take the antiprotons to a magnetically quieter spot to do a proper measurement.

No, there isn't enough to blow anything up, not even close..

If you're interested, it's possible to visit CERN: <https://visit.cern>. There may be waiting lists. It's very sought after. CERN welcomes over a thousand visitors daily.

Jeroen Belleman

Just wait and see when they realize the bomb's potential! They probably will build an anti matter plant, likely wind powered ;-)

That number will increase when people seek shelter in those CERN tunnels when the white in the nut house start[s] WW3.

What is the half life of an antiproton in a cryo Penning trap?

I'd have thought that preventing stray hydrogen atoms getting in there would be nigh on impossible. Hydrogen even diffuses through steel...

How many of the 92 will make it to the end of the journey?

Martin Brown

Actually it's not too bad. The half-life of antiprotons in a well-evacuated and cooled Penning trap is of the order of months, once the hottest particles have escaped. Holding on to antihydrogen is much harder, because you can't use electric fields to confine it. The half-life of antihydrogen is in the ballpark of a quarter of an hour.

(Not sure if I'm entirely up-to-date on the subject, but those were the numbers when I last looked.)

I don't know if the transportable antiproton trap is as good as the stationary ones.

Jeroen Belleman


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> >>Jeroen Belleman snipped-for-privacy@nospam.pleasewrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>> It was brought to my attention on TV by the German program Nano: CERN
> >>> transports anti-matter:
> >>> https://home.cern/news/press-release/experiments/base-experiment-cern-> >>> succeeds-transporting-antimatter
> >>>
> >>> On the way to an anti-matter bomb?
> >>> Mar-a-lago a first test ;-)?
> >>>
> >>> You Ash surrender now!
> >>
> >>I'm an occasional guide at the AD, taking people around the
> >>installations to show them what is going on. Yes, CERN is
> >>trucking antiprotons around, just testing the procedures
> >>for the moment. The reason is that some measurements that
> >>physicists want to perform are perturbed by the multitude
> >>of stray magnetic fields in the AD experimental hall, so
> >>we need to take the antiprotons to a magnetically quieter
> >>spot to do a proper measurement.
> >>
> >>No, there isn't enough to blow anything up, not even close..
> >
> >Just wait and see when they realize the bomb's potential!
> >They probably will build an anti matter plant, likely wind powered ;-) >
> The numbers don't work. If you want to make loud bangs, use the
> electricity to separate hydrogen and oxygen and deonate that.
>
> Converting electricity into antimatter is likely something like 1e-18 > efficient.

You haven't taken the shipping costs into account.

I have Amazon Prime.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

We always had trouble getting the very last traces of hydrogen and water out of ultra hard vacuum systems. Have things improved recently?

I'm surprised it is that good. I guess to some extent it is like the globular star clusters in astronomy after a few hot ones get expelled and the remaining ones settle down into a sort of equilibrium.

Gravitation binds remaining stars ever more tightly but for protons you need an externally applied field to keep them in the middle of the trap.

Martin Brown

You know the words 'bending spacetime' almost seem tailor made to sound bad if you try to apply it to static electric charges - in other words it is supposed to be strange if space-time is bent in one direction for a positive electric charge and it is bent in the opposite direction for a negative electric charge.

Nonetheless basic question. Has anyone tried to subtract out the electric fields and clearly determine that gravity derived from regular matter does - attract antimatter rather than - repel antimatter?

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google

does gravity attract antimatter

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Ok.

So, what is 'AI'? A generic term for 'technology' when a reporter wants to report on something that seems technological, but doesn't want to specify what the 'technology' is?

Well maybe so, but it also two letters attached to the 'google' search engine.

The google AI search isn't bad. One shouldn't believe it absolutely, but it usually has credible references and is a good start for branching out.

I sometimes don't have the just-right words for a search, and the google AI often furnishes them.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Yes indeed! Several experiments measure the effect of gravity on antimatter, neutral antihydrogen, and it falls down just like ordinary matter. At least within the precision afforded by the experiments. It's by no means easy to do.

Jeroen Belleman

All subjects where CIA hasn't a stake in are surprisingly reliable.

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