OT: Hot, Flat and Crowded

Which tells us what won't be happening.

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Now we're getting somewhere.

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krw

It has happened before. Why shouldn't it happen again?

Every now and again chunks of water go anoxic and the sediment laid down is organic carbon, rather than the layers of oxidised carbonate that you usually get.

The Burges Shales are the best know example but it has happened more recently.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Bill Sloman

The climate models are open to question:

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It should be noted that the entire modern satellite era started in

1979, just 2 years after the PDO switched to its positive phase during the ?Great Climate Shift? of 1977. Thus, our satellite data records are necessarily biased toward conditions existing during the positive phase of the PDO, and might not correspond to ?normal? climate conditions.

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Raveninghorde

It tells you in the article

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Dirk

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Of course - that's what science is all about

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On the other hand, this particular set of questions got tossed straight back at the author when he tried to publish in a peer-reviewed, so the odds are that there is a great gapping hole in the argument that the author hasn't noiticed.

This is a pity because I really like the idea of milking the satellite data for all it is worth, and keeping modelling down to the bare minimum required to explain the difference in measurements coming from different levels in the atmosphere.

He does seem to be a bit too enthusiastic about time-averaging his data, which loses the direct connection between specific layers of the atmosphere in specific places at specific times - individual lumps of weather - and must be throwing away a lot of interesting detail, but then again, what do I know ...

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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Bill Sloman
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Such as 1998 having greatest El Nino on record, anomaly more than the

2007-2008 La Nina that was merely greatest in 20 years.

How about one of Hansen's corrections being a then-recent-years-downturning one around 2001 IIRC. That is the one that changed "48 States USA" having their hottest decade from 1990's to 1930's. The wingnuts notably loved that one! So much for Hansen only correcting in an accused area of recent-years-upward!

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Don Klipstein

Please enlighten us in sci.electronics.design as to what the PDO is/was.

Does that have anything to do with "multidecadal oscillation"?

- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)satellite-and-climate-model-evidence/

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Don Klipstein

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