If you'll take the time to read the Communist Manifesto, you'll find that nearly every single article has been adopted by the government of the United States, including state-owned schools, paper money, social security, progressive taxation, etc. Most people don't understand communism and democracy aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, history seems to prove when people are given the chance to vote, they tend to vote for communist ideas. Biden is clearly a communist. And a majority of people in the U.S. seem to like it that way. I'm not one of them, as you noted, which makes me a "libertarian." Funny, we used to just call those people "Americans."
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The Communist Manifesto was actually a socialist document, written in 1848, long before the today's "communists" split off from the socialist movement.
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Socialism and democracy aren't mutally exclusive. Modern communism split off from socialism precisely because they wanted wanted to replace democracy with an oligarchy in which power was restricted to members of the communist (originally Bolshevik) party.
In Europe, voters still vote for basically socialist parties, because they still like socialist ideas.
Biden isn't even a socialist, though he is sympathetic to some socialist ideas
The majority is never sympathetic to the proposition that the minority who own the country should get to run the country in a way that favours that the further concentration of weath and power. In Russia the Communist Party represented just such a minority, and they ran the country pretty badly. The American oligarchy does better, but their unwillingess to invest in good education for all and good health care for all are making the USA less competitive than it could be. Your parochial press doesn't spend much time telling your citizens that the advanced industrial countries of Western Europe enjoy better health care than the US at about half the cost per head, and provide good education - for those that can use it - without demanding money up front.
Actually, you are merely an ignorant sucker who has fallen for the right-wing propaganda, which equates socialism with Russian-style communism, and proceeds to blame the failure of Russian communism on their socialist principles, rather than their addiction to a state-controlled economy which never works very well.
Modern socialism is alive and well in Europe, and has proven to be perfectly compatible with a regulated free-market economy. By most tests it works better than your system, which was devised by tax evaders for tax evaders, and has lead to a disproportionate accumulation of wealth by the richest members of your society.
It's well known that developed countries have been slowly drifting that way for quite some time. If one assumes that communism, properly executed -- which includes not just the order of social programs, but the entire society's mindset, a much taller order -- is beneficial, then one can see the world is slowly getting better. And slow is how it has to be, because that social mindset part can only happen slowly, over many generations. It's been proven several times now that a revolutionary, dictatorial approach is disasterous.
Is communism good? Yes! Is it bad? Yes! Any model of government has its ups and downs. What's more important is, is the current model well suited to the society it serves? This is why we see a gradual change in governments, reflecting the change in society, and why revolutions don't work so well, because society remains the same.
(This said, it's funny how the average Usenet troller is too ignorant to notice the above is hypothetical. Inevitably I will now be labelled a communist, which is just perverse. Such is trolling...)
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> If you\'ll take the time to read the Communist Manifesto, you\'ll find
> that nearly every single article has been adopted by the government of the
> United States, including state-owned schools, paper money, social
> security, progressive taxation, etc. Most people don\'t understand
> communism and democracy aren\'t mutually exclusive. In fact, history seems
> to prove when people are given the chance to vote, they tend to vote for
> communist ideas. Biden is clearly a communist. And a majority of people in
> the U.S. seem to like it that way. I\'m not one of them, as you noted,
> which makes me a "libertarian." Funny, we used to just call those people
> "Americans."
Only the brainwashed victim of right-wing propaganda would think that Biden was any kind of communist.
A sufficiently demented right-winger might think that Biden's ideas were too close to European socialist principles, but the same nit-wits probably think that Bismark was a socialist.
It didn't put much emphasis on educating the mob well enough to let them recognise and reject mindless propaganda.
Robert Lowe, contemplating the British Reform Bill, had enough sense to say that "we must educate our masters".
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It is a pity that your founding fathers didn't have as much sense.
Then no government is good, because all governments tax their citizens.
Of course, this is the Libertian manifesto, which conveniently ignores the fact that the government is merely the biggest protection racket in town. If you emasculate your government by stopping it from collecting taxes, you are merely passing power over to the next biggest protection racket in town who certainly will shake down the population for enough money to support an adequate mob of enforcers.
So is taxation. OTOH, it's better than the alternatives.
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