Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it

No Jim, reread my discussion....you're making excuses...location and culture have nothing to do with it...he is insulated from anything unpleasant. If you accept a job, the location goes with it....ever try telling a future employer "Yeah I want the job but I won't move"...LOL.

You also may want to consider that making excuses for the alcoholic's behavior is a common reaction by those "enablers" who permit the behavior to occur.

It's a sad situation but it is common for those around the person in question with vested interests to allow them to continue their destructive behavior to a miserable end....remember Elvis?

TMT

"Whatever it is, it's his personal misfortune, and not something to make political arguments about"

John, you can't be serious when you say that.

Not when among other things this individual has his finger on the button that can end the human race.

dependancies but it does not cloud my judgment that if they have a problem, you don't put them in positions where they can seriously injure others.

Unannounced drug tests with public disclosure of the results would be a great idea for politicians and one that I seriously doubt our President would pass.

TMT

Okay John, I want an unannounced drug test and I want you to personally go get the sample...need a cup?

I am not being meanspirited or poking fun at what I consider to be a very sad situation...trying to paint my discussion as such says much about you. I am stating my opinion and have every right to it as you do to yours. The man is a self admitted alcoholic and should be subject to random drug tests to insure that a relapse has not occurred.

Why don't we wait for the truth to come out years from now... long after the harm has been done.

TMT

There are those who say that about any president.

The fact is, he could be doing a better job if he'd just stop trying to appease the unappeasable liberals.

Tillman

Secretary of the Treasury? Secretary of the Interior?

Actually, Bush's alcoholism or not, if he's not doing a competent job he should be fired. It shouldn't matter if somebody's drunk or stoned or a porno-watcher on his own time, if he does the job he's being paid for; and there seem to be those who say Dubya's not doing the job of president very well.

Thanks, Rich

I do it all the time ;-)

Bush ain't Elvis ;-)

Stop being a leftist weenie, parroting everything you've been trained to spout; otherwise...

I have just as much accurate evidence that you're queer as you have that Bush is drinking again.

Keep pushing the envelope and you will lose ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Nope. He's just a little less inhibited than most when it comes to writing about his projects. It's a likeable quality.

Wayne

"their political affiliation (republican or democratic) makes them blind to unpleasant facts."

I agree Ig...and for the record I was not happy with Clinton's behavior while on the public clock either.

When you are in public office, you are there to do your job and not to take endless vacations or to play house with the hired help.

TMT

Pushing the envelope....LOL...sorry Jim, I call them the way I see them..didn't know that one could win or lose when expressing an opinion based on supporting data.

As for being a leftist weenie, that's really LOL. The liberals that know me think I am extremely conservative to the point that I drive them nuts.

As for evidence as to my sexual persuasion versus Bush falling off the wagon, Bush is a self confessed alcoholic. Once an alcoholic, unfortunately always an alcoholic. As for me being queer...well if you listen carefully you should be able to hear my wife laughing right now after reading your comment. ;

"The time to raise his competence to continue is when you see harm done. Before that you have no case."

Seen the latest polls recently?

The majority of Americans are not happy with the job performance of the big guy in the front office.

If he were an employee he would have been already discharged.

As it is, Republicans are getting nervous about the 2006 elections.

I think they are a reason to be nervous.

TMT

TMT

I could believe that he was not drinking during his first term, but now I have little doubt that he has resumed drinking.

Yep...

"their political affiliation (republican or democratic) makes them blind to unpleasant facts."

I consider myself very conservative and for the most part was happy with the job the president did on his first term. Near the end of his first term and this term, he has given entirely too much to appease the liberals. That and the fact he's too loose with illegal immigration issues.

If he is in fact drinking again, I'd have even more of a problem with him.

As far as Republicans being nervous about 2006, I think they're more unhappy with the lack of conservative action on the part of Congress and the White House than they are nervous. I believe conservatives still have the voting power to keep congress in the hands of Republicans, and they certainly won't be replacing them with liberals.

I do hope we can find a 'real' conservative candidate for the Whitehouse in 2008. If not, I fear a lack of enthusiasm may keep enough conservatives home from the voting booths that the libs may have a chance, even with Hillary.

Tillman

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson wrote (in ) about 'Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it', on Mon, 7 Nov 2005:

Whatever it is, it's his personal misfortune, and not something to make political arguments about. In the same way, you can take David Blunkett to task for being a 'bearded, power-crazed sex maniac' (and pathologically stupid, as are all politicians who think they won't be found out), but his blindness is not a subject for discussion.

I read in sci.electronics.design that Too_Many_Tools wrote (in ) about 'Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it', on Mon, 7 Nov 2005:

I carefully wrote 'political arguments'. If you claim he is incompetent to continue as President due to alcohol dependence, then proceed according to the law. Don't chant, effectively, 'Yah, boo! Look at the drunk!' It isn't polite or even effective, and it says a lot about the mentality of the chanter.

I think that it is helpful to separate reality from feelings. For example, if a person has pro-republican feelings, that person could still recognize the [unpleasant] real possibility that Bush has relapsed into drinking again. I am disappointed that for some people, their political affiliation (republican or democratic) makes them blind to unpleasant facts. I cannot believe that any good consequences could come from ignoring reality.

We love ya Iggy ( ducking) Marc

I read in sci.electronics.design that Too_Many_Tools wrote (in ) about 'Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it', on Mon, 7 Nov 2005:

Who said you hadn't? I maintain only that it's not a topic for political argument.

Why? Does it matter if he has a drink? It matters if he appears drunk in public so as to disgrace his office, but that hasn't happened yet and isn't likely to.

The time to raise his competence to continue is when you see harm done. Before that you have no case.

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ignoramus13880 wrote (in ) about 'Most awful hack job, but my kid likes it', on Mon, 7 Nov 2005:

Provided he doesn't do anything to disgrace his office, he should be left alone on this score.

I don't know what happened in the past in USA, but some of the best and best-loved politicians in UK were sober only just long enough for it not to show.