I was probing around the other day looking for low quiescent op-amps to use in a power limited circuit and stumbled on this
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I noticed the GBWP is only 9Khz? It does occur to me that this limits the number of applications by a gross amount?
I think even the 741 did better in that respect!
Jamie
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bitrex
Gain bandwidth and power consumption are interdependent - for example charging and discharging the dominant pole capacitor requires power proportional to the frequency
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John Larkin
Well, supply current is only half a microamp!
GBW/Icc is way better than a 741.
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Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.
Understood..
I just find it a waste of manufacturing..
I did find one that has a GBWP of 100Khz, that is rail to rail and no more than 600 nA of quiescent.
So when I return to work next week I'll have purchasing to get me a few and throw in some pork for myself while I'm at it :)
Jamie
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Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.
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Jamie
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Spehro Pefhany
741 with +/-15V supplies- 51mW typical. MCP6441 with +5V supply 2.25uW typical
You could typically run 23,000+ of the MCP6441 from the same amount of power as a single 741. That's a miracle.
RRIO.
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krw
Agreed, though the 741 isn't exactly the gold standard. ;-) Microchip makes some very nice RRIO opamps. Cheap, too. ;-)
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John Larkin
And it would make a great micropower noise generator. That's got to be a record for opamp noise density.
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Maynard A. Philbrook Jr.
Yup, we realize the old 741 is a model T, which is why I am not using such a device like that with what I have in mind. I will say that MChip does have a few interesting chips, I've always looked at them as uC (MPU) type people.
Jamie
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Spehro Pefhany
I think they bought the linear stuff from someone else- Telcom, IIRC.
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Jim Thompson
For a good self-teaching example, see...
Op-Amp-Config.zip
on the Device Models & Subcircuits Page of my website.
If you work you way line-by-line thru the Spice model you can easily see the interaction between GBW, slew-rate, and current requirements. ...Jim Thompson
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