Math+ Protocol and no ventilators reduces CFR

It's amusing and sad a lot of Americans seem to think they're going to go into a hospital when they're ill and order anyone around as to what treatment or standard of care they receive.

at least one commenter seems to get it:

"As a layperson living in a COVID19 hotspot (South Florida), how do I go about finding a medical care facility or medical practitioners that are using the MATH+ protocol in the event that I, or someone in my family, becomes infected with the virus? It is all well and good for us to understand a treatment regimen that appear effective, but what good is it if you cant find someone that is actually applying this protocol?"

Have a million bucks to hire your own care team would be a good way to start. A doctor in a major hospital has 50 other patients just as sick as you are to deal with and someone think they're gonna work overtime to save your life in particular with experimental treatments because why, exactly.

photo of a fat lady looking dumb as f*ck with her finger up in the air. (that says a lot for poor attitudes and behaviors)

You better contact your local hospital administrations and ask what is their *Standard of Care for Treating CV19 in Stage 1,2,3 & 4* before you have to choose one.

I suspect your hospital won't find any answers and they won't tell you their CFR either. (Case Fatality Rate)

You have a right to know.

No, that's the Lovin' Spoonful.

Nope, I expect not. There are 0 covid-19 patients at my nearest hospital currently though, so that's a plus.

Most people go to somewhere on the list of approved providers their insurance company gives them and if they're on the same list together the standard of care generally isn't much different between them.

Otherwise you get billed at minimum, what? 8-10k per night in the hospital for room and board alone and hopefully you have the cash handy because nobody in America except prisoners (well, depending on the prison) and occasionally, the totally destitute, gets health care for free.

no that's your choice of symbolism.

Ah , here we can go to any hospital, free and if they find a better surgeon available sooner, they'll send you if you can't go on your own steam.

Why is the USA the only developed country without free healthcare?

Because if everyone gets it then the blacks get it too and there are millions of Americans who'd rather die than ever give a darkie a penny of their own money, for anything.

One of many reasons I'd rather not be American. Albeit nice place to visit. Many of my relatives would rather not travel there due to attitudes, minority or not.

And so it was.

It has its ups and downs. There are patriots who are honest about the latter, and "patriots" who tell themselves stories.

These are the CFR's for our province of Ontario.

Age CFR(%, adjusted censoring)

No developed country has free health care, but most of them have universal health insurance, which means that you pay a fixed premium all your life an d don't have to pay for medical attention when you need it.

The US doesn't have it, because it was invented by that arch-socialist, Ott o von Bismarck

and adopting it would violate their ideological purity, or that's the story that James Arthur likes to tell.

In reality, work-related health insurance is one of many devices US employe rs use to coerce their employees, and the US health insurance business crea ms off a lot of profit from insuring people against medical costs that are half again higher per head than they are in the most expensive parts of the rest of the developed world.

They spend some of these profits on paying lobbyists to block any legislati on that might derail their gravy train. The battle against Obamacare is a c ase in point. James Arthur posted a lot of their propaganda here while that battle was going on, and it was obviously designed to be deceptive and mis leading, as I had fun pointing out.

It's a pretty pitiful amount of net profit, too. Apple makes nearly 3 times as much net as all the private health insurance companies combined. a fraction of one percent of GDP. The lions share of it goes to the bank accounts of maybe 500 top executives.

it's a salami-slicing operation.

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sal health insurance, which means that you pay a fixed premium all your lif e and don't have to pay for medical attention when you need it.

Otto von Bismarck

tory that James Arthur likes to tell.

loyers use to coerce their employees, and the US health insurance business creams off a lot of profit from insuring people against medical costs that are half again higher per head than they are in the most expensive parts of the rest of the developed world.

lation that might derail their gravy train. The battle against Obamacare is a case in point. James Arthur posted a lot of their propaganda here while that battle was going on, and it was obviously designed to be deceptive and misleading, as I had fun pointing out.

If you devote most of your profits to over-paying your top executives, they don't show up as net profits distributed to share-holders.

One of the obvious driver of US income inequality is the enormous salaries that end up in the pockets of the top executives.

These are the people who decide how much of the company income gets paid to lobbyists.

My parents emigrated by boat to Pittsburg when I was 6 weeks old. My mother still has my father's "US Steel" lapel badge.

They chose to return when I was 18 months old.

Nuff said.

Yup.

Mensch is mensch, the whole world over.

Absolutely correct on both counts.

That's *precisely* what happens.

They seem biassed to only count serious cases that end up in hospital.

UK MRC national UK data shows average values between a factor of two and two orders of magnitude lower for the more reasonable measure of IFR.

Age Median 95% CrI (lower) 95% CrI (upper)

As Larkin pointed out,

To any sufficiently intelligent being, everything is obvious.

We just did our annual raise+bonus review. The biggest bumps go to a quiet black kid who turned out to be a genius at some aspects of electronics.

He is the only black person who has ever applied for an engineering position at our company, or any position in my memory.

America is a great place to design electronics. We seem to do it multiples better and faster than certain european countries that I could name. That has to do with attitudes too.

We're happy about that too. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs