LTSpice: Slow on noise sims with foreign opamps

Jan 04, 2013 79 Replies

You need to be careful while "sitching" ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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If you want to play with TI psrts perhaps try the free TI spice program "TINA"

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Usually if spice is choking, there is something wrong with the circuit. Now you can't float single nodes in spice, but you can have nets that should be tied to something that might be floating.

I would look carefully at the connectivity of the subcircuit.

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Well, I don't want to learn a new CAD everytime a vendor thinks they absolutely have to boil their own proprietary broth. The stuff I do with it often gets to be complicated and that would take a long learning curve every time.

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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Nope. It means that it DID find the OPerating point.

You probably don't have the .AC set up properly. I've just posted another pass. ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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But no workie.

So how come other opamp model work fine with exactly the same setup?

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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That's what I get with the other opamps (in my case nV/rtHz because that's what I want). I guess the model works in PSpice but for some reason it doesn't in LTSpice

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Parasitics not properly included in the faulty engine?

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Hey Joerg, are you the Bear of spice ?-)

Thanks, Fred.

I am not sure many know just how funny that is.

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Ursus simulatorus? :-)

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Ya got the set-up wrong. ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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I'm still betting there's two possibilities... pin order wrong, or .AC set-up wrong. ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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That doesn't explain why the other opamps work just fine.

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Show me the setups... maybe the pin order is doing you in? ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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Looks like LTspice order, for OpAmp2 symbol is...

IN+ IN- V+ V- Vout ...Jim Thompson

| James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

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Hmm, the OPA model is -IN +IN V- V+ Vout.

Is that customary at TI, or in the old Burr-Brown world? If so the I should make a OpAmp2TI or something.

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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Looks like pin order (the one you initially suggested as well as the one the OPA model has), thanks for the hint.

But now SWMBO wants me to start the barbecue. Pizza over charcoal, in the Weber, yummmm. With lots of Jalapenos on there. Those burn twice ...

Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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