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Yes, and that's Bluegrass. One of the music teachers I had in high school was in a great bluegrass band (The Medicare # - #=the number that showed up that night). He played the clarinet and garden hose. ;-)

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When our family started using EasyWriter I think there was no Word Star.

When my wife went back to college in the '80s we had a word processor on our C64 that she used with an Star dot matrix to do her school work. it was definitely NOT WYSIWYG, but it was a lot better than typing!

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When I went back for may Masters in 1988, I first bought me a PC clone (8088 with a 30Meg HD!) to do homework on. I happened to have a 'friend' or two, so I had a complete suite of tools, including wordperfect, spreadsheets, autocad!, plus anything else I thought I needed. I also got the free version of PSpice when I needed it.

I think just about all of my classmates in the grad program had their own PCs...

Charlie

I have found that I almost always have a budget of $1K when I get a new computer. My first C64, with disk drive and printer, was about that, although I got about $300 in rebates. My first PC, the 8088, was $1050. My next 486 machine was probably around $900, and my next two compaqs were around a grand. Even this laptop was only $1100...

Charlie

When I got my BS back in the 70s, the college required you to at least get a 7 meal plan, even if you lived off campus or had a kitchen on campus. It just went in the cost of college. My cheap meal of choice was beans and franks. Since I could cook, this was pretty good... ;-)

Charlie

I went to the Tuesday farmers market every week, got milk and eggs fresh from a local farmer (yep, non-pasteurized milk fresh from the cows), made my own yoghurt, brewed beer and cooked up a storm almost every night. About the only thing I just warmed up was Bami Goreng because the local butcher made a really good one.

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I liked Speedscript for the C64, SX64 & C128. Not fancy, but easy to use. On the 128 you saved the program as the first file on a floppy, then used the 'Shift' & 'Run' keys to load & run the first program on a disk.

Most of mine were in the $400 range, if I didn't build them myself. The last new computer I bought was an Emachines 733 MHz E Tower with Windows ME. Since then, it has been used computers built from used parts.

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You should listen to 'Bluegrass Underground' on WSM. It's recorded live in a cave that is 333 feet below ground, near Nashville. It airs Saturdays before the Opry.

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Of course they're evil. I had to pay an "intramural athletics building" fee for a building I couldn't use and an "assembly hall fee" for a building I couldn't afford to use (basketball and concert venue). In fact, to show you how evil, they were voted on by the student body. A no-vote was a *no* vote. But that's what leftists do

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Probably fewer night classes, too. Now they're doing on-line classes (my son is caught up in this). Same tuition, more bodies per instructor, zero infrastructure costs.

When I first signed up at ASU for the Motorola-sponsored Master's program, it was line after line of crap.

The last, and longest line, after I had stood there maybe 20 minutes, I asked, "What is this line for?" Answer, "This is where you buy discounted passes for all the sporting events."

My response, "F*CK!"

Stepped over the rope, and walked away, with everyone looking at me like I was some kind of weirdo or something... I was 22... saved myself $25, which was nearly a full day's pay back then... $6760 annual ;-) ...Jim Thompson

Back in the day, universities were expected to act *in loco parentis*, i.e. to protect their students against their own worst tendencies to misbehave when they first leave home. That was a good thing in general--these days, the universities don't want parents to have any say at all.

As an aside, I've never understood the American tendency to try to protect kids against alcohol until they're 18, and then send them away to school to die of alcohol poisoning. My #1 daughter was an RA at a college in Maryland, and she has some really hair-raising stories of people in her dorms who could easily have died that way. Europeans have a more sensible attitude--introduce it gradually so that by the time they leave home, it's no big deal and they know their limits.

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Where I am, there's usually a *surcharge!* to take an on-line class. They get away with it because there isn't exactly much choice in the matter, and I suppose that people just view it as a "convenience" fee, just as they're willing to pay more for beer at 7-11 than at a regular grocery store.

But it's definitely not a very student-friendly policy.

Granted, all those on-line class takers *are* allowed to visit the campus and check out some books from the library or use the swimming pool or whatever, but obvious they know that on average very few of the facilities that tuition helps to pay for are actually going to be used by on-line learners.

---Joel

Number One Daughter went off to Scripps College (Pomona, 1980) and on one of the first days she was there, the dormitory had a wine tasting (identification) contest. N.O.D won the contest ;-) ...Jim Thompson