LED forward voltage drop with temperature

If the electrons are all bound up then thermal conduction can only be thru the lattice phonons but that's an order of magnitude less strong an effect than electron conduction in most metals.

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John Larkin wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

unprofessional, immature self... again.

You are always stupid, and always childish. Just like Trump.

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nickel, tin, iron, platinum, mild steel, lead plus some alloys ALL have th e same positive tempco of resistance.

Don't be too much of a jerk.

Explaining the conductivity of metals was one of the first successes of quantum mechanics. I think the classical prediction for metal conductivity is off by a factor of ~100. (Why don't the electrons scatter more in a metal?)

George H.

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George Herold

Never to sensible people.

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The people who don't regard John Larkin as a jerk have to be insensible peo ple - insensitive to his egomania and fatuous point scoring.

John Larkin's idea of "sensible" is much the same as his idea of "correct"

- something or somebody he agrees with.

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Bill Sloman

John Larkin is a Sub Human Moron

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** Only an idiot would think that.

Look who just did.

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Phil Allison

That certainly IS an interesting question. It's approximately zero. The electrons in a superconductor do not share heat with the lattice because they've become decoupled: the superconducting transition turns thermal conductivity off, and is a useful thermal switch.

Mobile electrons carry heat, but not mobile Cooper pairs of electrons.

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Am 22.04.2020 um 17:55 schrieb John S:

Hello John,

You can adjust the temperature coefficient with the parameter EG in the diode's SPICE model. Eg is 1.11 by default. Simply change this number a little bit until you get the temperature coefficient you need.

Examples: .model LED_GREEN D(Is=8.2e-25 N=1.46 Rs=5.1 Eg=2.23) .model LED_RED D(Is=2.4e-20 N=1.655 Rs=1.5 Eg=2.17)

Regards, Helmut

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Helmut Sennewald

But one would have to carefully measure various real LEDs that are candidates, then tweak the Spice model to match each one. It's a lot easier to just try it.

Does Spice account for the temperature coefficient of Rs?

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jlarkin

Thank you, Helmut. This is valuable info for me.

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