jacks

Jul 20, 2026 Last reply: 1 month ago 41 Replies

I got a email from a microwave site about jacks. As the mate for plugs?



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English is such a messy language.


John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics


The picture is of an adjustable height table whose top can be raised or lowered with what I call a scissor jack.

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English is a human language and it continues to evolve. Some of the people who use it seem to have chosen their ancestors unwisely. Evolution just means change, and it isn't always for the better.

Many years ago I was in Germany and had to translate a technical document into English, my colleagues found it hilarious when I described connectors as Male and Female-thought I had a sex obsession.

And some connectors, like SMBs, can have female plugs.

Kinky.

It's called polysemy.

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Then things get complicated:

Using accent symbols to differentiate between different meanings of words that look the same is called diacritic differentiation or lexical diacritic disambiguation. When specifically applied to words with the same spelling, these accent marks are widely known as distinguishing diacritics, distinctive diacritics, or diacritic marks for homograph/homonym differentiation.

Thankfully, English doesn't do this. It certainly simplifies the typesetting.

John Larkin snipped-for-privacy@Glen--Canyon.com wrote: |-----------------------------------| |"English is such a messy language."| |-----------------------------------|

Truly.

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                            -- Author Unknown

Gerhard Hoffmann snipped-for-privacy@Arcor.De wrote: |---------------------------------| |"         ENGLISH IS TOUGH STUFF"| |---------------------------------|

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|----------------------------------------------| |"[. . .] Britain. | |         (Mind the latter, how it's written.)"| |----------------------------------------------|

I used to be in my 20's before I knew that I tend to misspell Britain. (S.

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The jack is the less mobile half of the connection, regardless of gender.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Every once in a while I think about a word with many meanings. Today's is "fence."

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Thanks for that! Though I found d'Antin's more clever.

English is a chore because it is a hodgepodge of words appropriated from other languages. In the US, it is made worse by regional variations as well as cultural preferences (inSURance vs. INsurance?)

If you have the occasion to write a text-to-speech package, the vagaries become incredibly apparent: bread rhymes with read (and red) but breed rhymes with read (and reed!). Ditto for treed/tread.

Some folks pronounce the 'L' in saLmon and aLmond.

And, when we encounter british spellings, most folks

*feel* them as inherently "wrong" (e.g., our use of Z for sounds the brits code with S)

And, I still don't get "aluminIum"! I first thought it was just a mispronunciation but...

OTOH, we also have oddball misspellings like vacumn vs vacuum vs vacum vs. vaccum -- all having been used, in print, over the years.

Then, the inappropriate use of some words: "I stopped driving since the car was stolen" is that a temporal relationship or a causal relationship being expressed?

AI Overview

The verb "run" has the most meanings in the English language, boasting over 645 distinct definitions in its verb form alone according to ongoing lexicographical research. Previously, the verb "set" held the official Guinness World Records title with 430 distinct senses in the Oxford English Dictionary.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

English relies on context to distinguish words that look the same or sound the same, but have different meaning in different contexts.

All languages rely on this. They may add helpful indicators to make it easier - my wife's research sometimes involved "garden path sentences" deliberately constructed to mislead the reader/listener to expect one context while the sentence switched to a different context fairly close to the end.

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As usual, AI doesn't know what it is talking about.

and there are hermaphrodites where there is only one type and they can mate

Oxford English Dictionary doesn't know what it's talking about?

and almost every RF connector is also available in RP (reverse polarity). For example:

"AMPHENOL Reverse Polarity RF Connectors"

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Perverse polarity.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

afaiu they were mostly an invention to "comply" with requirements that things like Wifi routers don't use a "commonly available" connector for the antenna

The original RP connectors were contrived as a solution to the FCC demand that Wi-Fi devices and antennas must be certified as a complete system and therefore must be tested and sold as a complete system. The brilliant FCC bureaucrats were trying to prevent users from replacing low gain Wi-Fi antennas with larger antennas that offered superior performance. Good intentions, but not what manufacturers and users wanted. The FCC eventually allowed some exceptions, such as wireless microphones, but unique antenna connectors are still required for certification.

FCC Part 15.203

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"An intentional radiator shall be designed to ensure that no antenna other than that furnished by the responsible party shall be used with the device. (...) The manufacturer may design the unit so that a broken antenna can be replaced by the user, but the use of a standard antenna jack or electrical connector is prohibited."

Oops. I forgot to check the date. The above is from an old version of 15.203 and 15.204. Below is a later version that includes a longer list of exclusions, which allow some acceptable antenna substitutions and less rigid requirements for substitute antennas:

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